So, what is the current status of the rear end situation? I just bought an 08, and now I am wondering if I will be regretting it. I got it for a great price, 35% off sticker, but still..... First post btw, so take it easy on me, show me some love
My two cents on the Titan. Nissan had the small and mid size trucks figured out, as did Toyo. Both made great smaller trucks for years. They see the running battle between F-150, Z-71, and Dodge and want to take over that market. So they put in that magic big V-8, and just kinda up scale their drive train a bit. Then when folks put em to the test in the real world, parts bend, fatique, and bust. The big 3 truck makers didn't get Farm Yard Tuff overnight, it was trial and error over years, constantly going bigger, more percise, and more or less heat treating till, the product will hold up to any farmer, hot rodder kid, or construction worker, the people who buy big trucks.
If Nissan wants to have the reputation with big trucks as they have with small trucks, they may have to go with a big Detroit locker or Dana 60.
My sis-in-law just bought a new 08 XE for $13,500, they already had a 07 XE for $19,000. They love them, but don't work them at all, just big smooth transpotation.
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Yesterday I was heading out of town and thank goodness I was not far from a dealership and it sounding like the rear end was coming out of my truck (banging, jerking, popping) scared the s++t out of me. The truck is an 05 SE Big Tow loaded with 86K on it. The only heavy thing I have pulled once is the smallest skid steer loader. The mechanic could not believe I made it that far and that the whole rear end needed replacement; 3500.00 (3000.00 for the rear end) which I highly question. They wouldn't even work with me. I decided not to put the money in the truck and they gave me a deal I could not refuse on a 08 Pro4X Longbed loaded. I am still pissed. I do nothing but brag about the Titan and still love it, but I have to say it is not made to be a true work horse, although it does pull good I have just lost faith in the true "truckness" of it. Is the 08 any different?
Going to look at an 05 LE KC with tow package.. Can I assume this truck has the locker diff? 40,000 miles
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The locker only comes with the "Off Road" package. Not all 4x4 Titans are "Off Road."
FYI...My truck is an '06. My original rear end failed at 3,000 miles (yes...they forgot the vent too and thanks to Titan Talk, I caught it...). It was replaced under warranty and I now have over 60,000 miles on the truck. The replacement rear end had a different part number than the original and has been fine so far.
Occassional towing (fairly heavy boats) and light 4 wheel driving...no "mud bogging" but some trailing and hauling stuff for the river house the family has on the St. Johns.
Oh...I do have a lead foot though.
No problems with the replacement.
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My Titan joined the ranks last week with 69,960 miles and less than 10K after the SM replaced the left rear axle seal and differential fluid.
Nissan won't cover this under warranty so I ordered the TruTrac.
I'll be filing today....... IVOQ - File a Complaint
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ARE Z shell..OEM bug/rock deflector, Lund AVS Ventvisors, OEM mud gaurds, Bushwhacker- notched-Fender Flares, Stainless Steel Titan Door Sills, Black Vinyl Door Edge Molding on front doors and vertical sides of Tailgate, Spoiler Direct Chrome Tailgate Trim, Utilitrac System, OEM Dual Lower Sliding Trays, OEM under-seat-storganiser, Silver Star Ultra L B, White Night Backup Lights, CT Windshield Sun Reflector, Drawtite Activator II trailer-e-brake control, Super-Z-Winter Traction Cables, Dueler AT REVO Tires-3rd set, Nitrogen in tires, Frozen Rotors/Hawk Pads, NISSAN I-POD adapter, Bosch Icon blades, Optima Red Top battery.
Amsoil: SEVERE GEAR 75-140W Synthetic In Rear and 75-90 in Front Differential, ATF Synthetic in Transfer Case,
Signature Series 0-30W synthetic engine oil, EAO13 oil filter, EaA104 Nano-fiber engine air filter.
The TruTrac does not work with the e-locker or at least that is what I was told. Can anyone tell me different?
Mine bit the dust on Nov 8th at 83,000. Nissan Copr says htey hae never heard of the problem with the rearend. I say thats crap. Dealer wants $3900.00to fix it. I like my Titan, but the Tundra and the F250 /F350 look mighty sweet. Who knows.
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The TruTrac does not work with the e-locker or at least that is what I was told. Can anyone tell me different?
Mine bit the dust on Nov 8th at 83,000. Nissan Copr says htey hae never heard of the problem with the rearend. I say thats crap. Dealer wants $3900.00to fix it. I like my Titan, but the Tundra and the F250 /F350 look mighty sweet. Who knows.
TT replaces the E-loc. According to my vendor I ordered mine from it will fit with no issues and most of the units they sell are for Titans with E-loc.
I called Detroit and asked them and they said some axle shims may be needed but that's minor if true.
I'll know for sure soon....my truck has the E-loc and it's in a specialty shop now having TT installed.
Good luck!
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ARE Z shell..OEM bug/rock deflector, Lund AVS Ventvisors, OEM mud gaurds, Bushwhacker- notched-Fender Flares, Stainless Steel Titan Door Sills, Black Vinyl Door Edge Molding on front doors and vertical sides of Tailgate, Spoiler Direct Chrome Tailgate Trim, Utilitrac System, OEM Dual Lower Sliding Trays, OEM under-seat-storganiser, Silver Star Ultra L B, White Night Backup Lights, CT Windshield Sun Reflector, Drawtite Activator II trailer-e-brake control, Super-Z-Winter Traction Cables, Dueler AT REVO Tires-3rd set, Nitrogen in tires, Frozen Rotors/Hawk Pads, NISSAN I-POD adapter, Bosch Icon blades, Optima Red Top battery.
Amsoil: SEVERE GEAR 75-140W Synthetic In Rear and 75-90 in Front Differential, ATF Synthetic in Transfer Case,
Signature Series 0-30W synthetic engine oil, EAO13 oil filter, EaA104 Nano-fiber engine air filter.
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The TruTrac does not work with the e-locker or at least that is what I was told. Can anyone tell me different?
Mine bit the dust on Nov 8th at 83,000. Nissan Copr says htey hae never heard of the problem with the rearend. I say thats crap. Dealer wants $3900.00to fix it. I like my Titan, but the Tundra and the F250 /F350 look mighty sweet. Who knows.
TrueTrack was installed on my 05 Titan with no problems...and yes I had E-lock!
So far TrueTrac is excellent! I highly recommend it.
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ARE Z shell..OEM bug/rock deflector, Lund AVS Ventvisors, OEM mud gaurds, Bushwhacker- notched-Fender Flares, Stainless Steel Titan Door Sills, Black Vinyl Door Edge Molding on front doors and vertical sides of Tailgate, Spoiler Direct Chrome Tailgate Trim, Utilitrac System, OEM Dual Lower Sliding Trays, OEM under-seat-storganiser, Silver Star Ultra L B, White Night Backup Lights, CT Windshield Sun Reflector, Drawtite Activator II trailer-e-brake control, Super-Z-Winter Traction Cables, Dueler AT REVO Tires-3rd set, Nitrogen in tires, Frozen Rotors/Hawk Pads, NISSAN I-POD adapter, Bosch Icon blades, Optima Red Top battery.
Amsoil: SEVERE GEAR 75-140W Synthetic In Rear and 75-90 in Front Differential, ATF Synthetic in Transfer Case,
Signature Series 0-30W synthetic engine oil, EAO13 oil filter, EaA104 Nano-fiber engine air filter.
Did you have to have your ring and pinion gears replaced? I am having a hard time finding replacements. I was told I need them replaced also. One more thing. With the E-lock not hooked up, do you get any lights on your dash about a problem? The dealer said if I install the TT the truck will get error codes. Just wondering how you got around this. Thanks for the help.
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Hey Honeykeeper,
Did you have to have your ring and pinion gears replaced? I am having a hard time finding replacements. I was told I need them replaced also. One more thing. With the E-lock not hooked up, do you get any lights on your dash about a problem? The dealer said if I install the TT the truck will get error codes. Just wondering how you got around this. Thanks for the help.
Did they show you the damaged parts? They should if you ask them. That sounds fishy.
We replaced the front and back pinion bearings and races and the pinion seal due to having 70K on it. I did not have to replace the ring and pinion gears. Only the spider gears teeth were damaged.
No lights at all on the dash and no problems at all. TrueTrac is the best way to go in my opinion.
I have seen several used rear-ends/parts available on the forums. If you start a thread with what you are looking for I bet someone will contact you.
Did you file with the NHTSA yet?
Good luck and let us know what happens.
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ARE Z shell..OEM bug/rock deflector, Lund AVS Ventvisors, OEM mud gaurds, Bushwhacker- notched-Fender Flares, Stainless Steel Titan Door Sills, Black Vinyl Door Edge Molding on front doors and vertical sides of Tailgate, Spoiler Direct Chrome Tailgate Trim, Utilitrac System, OEM Dual Lower Sliding Trays, OEM under-seat-storganiser, Silver Star Ultra L B, White Night Backup Lights, CT Windshield Sun Reflector, Drawtite Activator II trailer-e-brake control, Super-Z-Winter Traction Cables, Dueler AT REVO Tires-3rd set, Nitrogen in tires, Frozen Rotors/Hawk Pads, NISSAN I-POD adapter, Bosch Icon blades, Optima Red Top battery.
Amsoil: SEVERE GEAR 75-140W Synthetic In Rear and 75-90 in Front Differential, ATF Synthetic in Transfer Case,
Signature Series 0-30W synthetic engine oil, EAO13 oil filter, EaA104 Nano-fiber engine air filter.
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Re: Here's # of Rear Diff Failures Reported
Here's the count today.
71 cases on 04's
70 cases on 05's
16 cases on 06's
2 cases on 07's 1 case on 08's
160 known cases/complaints about the failed NISSAN TITAN rear differential components with the NHTSA.
Please make a case/complaint known here and with the NHTSA about your failed rear differential if you have one: http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/
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ARE Z shell..OEM bug/rock deflector, Lund AVS Ventvisors, OEM mud gaurds, Bushwhacker- notched-Fender Flares, Stainless Steel Titan Door Sills, Black Vinyl Door Edge Molding on front doors and vertical sides of Tailgate, Spoiler Direct Chrome Tailgate Trim, Utilitrac System, OEM Dual Lower Sliding Trays, OEM under-seat-storganiser, Silver Star Ultra L B, White Night Backup Lights, CT Windshield Sun Reflector, Drawtite Activator II trailer-e-brake control, Super-Z-Winter Traction Cables, Dueler AT REVO Tires-3rd set, Nitrogen in tires, Frozen Rotors/Hawk Pads, NISSAN I-POD adapter, Bosch Icon blades, Optima Red Top battery.
Amsoil: SEVERE GEAR 75-140W Synthetic In Rear and 75-90 in Front Differential, ATF Synthetic in Transfer Case,
Signature Series 0-30W synthetic engine oil, EAO13 oil filter, EaA104 Nano-fiber engine air filter.
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Here's a list of parts needed for the TrueTrac installation, axle seals and pinion parts I used:
For the True Trac installation:
1 Eaton Detroit True Trac: DET913A582
2 Timken Bearings: TIMJLM704649
2 Timken Races: TIMJLM704610
Timken is a manufacturer.
For the Axle Seals, Bearings, Races replacement:
NISSAN Part #'s:
2 Bearing - Rear Axle 40210-7S210
2 Spacer Axle Brg. 43070-7S200
2 Seal - Oil Rear A 43252-7S200
For the Pinion Bearings, Races, and Seal replacement:
NISSAN Part #'s:
1 Pinion Bearing:Inner HM803146
1 Pinion Bearing Inner Race: M88048
1 Pinion Bearing Outer: M88010
1 Pinion Bearing Outer Race: HM803110
1 Pinion Seal: 100712V
1 Pinion Crush Sleeve: 430707F200
Hope this helps anyone about to install TrueTrac......Peace-Tom
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3-29-05 Born 4/09/05 Adopted SEKC 4 x 4 Off Road with Big Tow, no more E-loc, Blizzard Graphite/TitaniumInterior, Popular Package, Bench Seat, Bilstein front/rear shocks, Deaver Mini-Pak Springs, Total Chaos Shackles, Hellwig Anti-Sway Bar, TrueTrac, Mag-Hytek Honeypot, HK Rear Axle Vent Mod.
ARE Z shell..OEM bug/rock deflector, Lund AVS Ventvisors, OEM mud gaurds, Bushwhacker- notched-Fender Flares, Stainless Steel Titan Door Sills, Black Vinyl Door Edge Molding on front doors and vertical sides of Tailgate, Spoiler Direct Chrome Tailgate Trim, Utilitrac System, OEM Dual Lower Sliding Trays, OEM under-seat-storganiser, Silver Star Ultra L B, White Night Backup Lights, CT Windshield Sun Reflector, Drawtite Activator II trailer-e-brake control, Super-Z-Winter Traction Cables, Dueler AT REVO Tires-3rd set, Nitrogen in tires, Frozen Rotors/Hawk Pads, NISSAN I-POD adapter, Bosch Icon blades, Optima Red Top battery.
Amsoil: SEVERE GEAR 75-140W Synthetic In Rear and 75-90 in Front Differential, ATF Synthetic in Transfer Case,
Signature Series 0-30W synthetic engine oil, EAO13 oil filter, EaA104 Nano-fiber engine air filter.
I've got a 2008.5 Titan with about 18,000 miles on it, Locker stopped working today, it makes a noise likes it's trying to engage, and a grinding noise when the tires are spinning (there's been a lot due to the snowstorms) Truck drives like normal though. Setup an appt for Friday to have the rearend looked at.
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