Removing the Sway Bars and Flipping the Coil Bucket for an Added 1"?? - Page 2

Yellomantis · 09-28-2006, 12:56 PM

How are you going to flip the coil bucket?!?!?!? IT'S WELDED IN PLACE!!! Something must have been lost in translation....

MississippiTitan · 09-28-2006, 04:19 PM

maybe greg would let us know. I cant ever get a hold of him to ask. so maybe somebody else will have better luck.

justrich · 09-28-2006, 10:37 PM

i was warned by greg about maxing out the coilover. i forgot what he warned me about. has anyone had problems with there performance kit maxed out. im also curious about this flipping of the coil bucket im curuious to see results.

kartman · 09-28-2006, 10:40 PM

I ran my DRs maxed for awhile. It does not ride great in comparison to having the preload centered as you have almost no droop.

lifeinthesouth · 09-30-2006, 09:41 PM

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How are you going to flip the coil bucket?!?!?!? IT'S WELDED IN PLACE!!! Something must have been lost in translation....

No joke! Someone definitely misunderstood something.

And yes, maxing out the coilover will make for quite a harsh ride but if you just want the look it'll work!

Blindside1234 · 09-30-2006, 09:54 PM

ok, taking out a sway bar is not good, espically in vehicles with a high center of gravity. It also helps the lower control arm to maintain its position in turns and prevents body roll. A sway bar is also refered to as a stabalizer bar, and for good reason, also adding an inch will make the tie rods higher than the steering knuckle thus giving you lots of alignment problems, positive camber and TREMENDOUS amounts of bumpsteer will occur.

miketan · 09-30-2006, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Blindside1234

ok, taking out a sway bar is not good, espically in vehicles with a high center of gravity. It also helps the lower control arm to maintain its position in turns and prevents body roll. A sway bar is also refered to as a stabalizer bar, and for good reason, also adding an inch will make the tie rods higher than the steering knuckle thus giving you lots of alignment problems, positive camber and TREMENDOUS amounts of bumpsteer will occur.

Man, you got that right. I see so many lifted trucks around here with the front wheels leaning in towards the top. Especially when you see them driving down the freeway or something. Not only are the front wheels at such a positive camber, but the wheels are usually toe'd out to a ridiculous amount as well.

kartman · 09-30-2006, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Blindside1234

ok, taking out a sway bar is not good, espically in vehicles with a high center of gravity. It also helps the lower control arm to maintain its position in turns and prevents body roll. A sway bar is also refered to as a stabalizer bar, and for good reason, also adding an inch will make the tie rods higher than the steering knuckle thus giving you lots of alignment problems, positive camber and TREMENDOUS amounts of bumpsteer will occur.

Someone forgot to tell my truck it has bumpsteer. You are full of bad info today. Thanks.

Miketitan, positive camber is top of the wheels out not in.

i<3mytitan · 09-30-2006, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Blindside1234

ok, taking out a sway bar is not good, espically in vehicles with a high center of gravity. It also helps the lower control arm to maintain its position in turns and prevents body roll. A sway bar is also refered to as a stabalizer bar, and for good reason, also adding an inch will make the tie rods higher than the steering knuckle thus giving you lots of alignment problems, positive camber and TREMENDOUS amounts of bumpsteer will occur.

i'm running the CST kit and Radflo coilovers up front, so i'm sitting around 9-10 inches higher than stock. Yes, there is more bodyroll going into corners, but I don't have any problems taking turns. When Greg removed my bar, I asked him that exact same question. He told me that the sway bar doesn't allow the full potential of the coilovers. By removing the bar, you force the coilovers to work. Keeping it in place along with the coilovers more or less keeps the truck going straight. Yeah, I know i'm not too clear, Greg or Kartman could probably explain it WAY better than I can. But in my opinion, I haven't noticed a difference big enough to warrant replacing the sway bar.

justrich · 10-02-2006, 01:38 PM

would removing the sway bar on my performance kit improve performance? if it doesnt perform better then im not interested.

kartman · 10-02-2006, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by justrich

would removing the sway bar on my performance kit improve performance? if it doesnt perform better then im not interested.

That depends on your perceptions and wants. I liked it better. It takes about 3 minutes to try out. Remove one swaybar endlink fron the truck and drive it around for a couple days. If will feel wierd at first so give it a fair shot. If you dont like it reinstall the endlink, if you like it remove the bar and other endlink

**loufish** · 10-02-2006, 08:49 PM

I'm still waiting for an explanation of this "bucket flipping"...

kartman · 10-02-2006, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by loufish

I'm still waiting for an explanation of this "bucket flipping"...

He got the terminology wrong. It is actually flipping the hats on the shocks.

**Carbeaux** · 10-02-2006, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kartman

He got the terminology wrong. It is actually flipping the hats on the shocks.

Not meaning to be obtuse, but could you explain what you mean by that?

kartman · 10-02-2006, 09:02 PM

DOnahoe shocks have a hat at the top that adapts the standard shock mount to fit the coil bucket of the Titan, look at the top of the shock in the pic. Flipping the hat upsidedown apparantly makes the shock a little longer for a bit more lift. I hve not tried it personally.