Differences of the 07...

StuntDriver06 · 11-30-2006, 04:40 PM

i just got an 07, so i wanted to point out some differences i have noticed so far and will post as i find more.

front doors shut tighter, no more loose look when dooors are closing (KC)
better looking exhaust tip
seems to really pull with more authority (though the lower gear ratio could be throwing me off)

MuskyHunter · 11-30-2006, 05:53 PM

Congrats on the '07!

Other observations;

Throttle is more progressive. Not so sensitive when going over bumps.

Drive shaft is using some kind of acoustical treatment or different alloy so that it doesn't transmit as much driveline noise.

Better low end torque. Easy to get to speed without excessive shifting.

Different shift points and progressive slide into lockout torque converter mode.

Less tendancy to upshift under light peddal pressure. Easy to make moderate speed changes.

Fit and finish is improved. No interior rattles to date.

Brakes feel more firm.

Less bed shake.

Better gas mileage to date.

Seems to handle better for some reason, but that is subjective.

Different starter. Faster and different sounding (higher pitched).

Less of a tendancy for high rev's on initial starting of vehicle.

Noted on the door observation, they do fit and close nicer.

Carpet hugs floor hump better, less loose all around.

Labeled switches for heated seats with hi/low text (never could keep that straight).

StuntDriver06 · 11-30-2006, 05:57 PM

yeah i noticed the starter too, i was just going to post that... my brakes feel less firm than my 06, but i think there is a procedure for brake pedal adjustment, which is supposed to change the feel slightly... and it does pull to the left, so dealer will have to fix this...

fit and finish definately improved... armrests are even tighter, hope these seats dont squeak...

StuntDriver06 · 11-30-2006, 05:58 PM

oh, i did notice that it rides better too, that could be due to the 4x4 or the OR package though....

MuskyHunter · 11-30-2006, 06:06 PM

As for the ride, it feels like the rear axle is connected. My '05 felt like the back suspension did whatever it wanted. This truck feels like the axle and suspension are one. Less clunking and drifting over rough surfaces. Shocks may be different but my old truck never felt as good as this one.

MuskyHunter · 11-30-2006, 06:07 PM

I am surprised you got the truck. The other day in a post it looked like you gave up. Did you get hooked up with sting77 for the VPP discount?

StuntDriver06 · 12-01-2006, 08:05 AM

i did give up until they called me at work the next day desperate for a sale, they knew when i walked out they lost 2 sales because my wife traded her grand cherokee in after i got my deal... so he basically just gave me what i wanted in the first place.. i basically am just paying $50 more a month, not too bad for OR and BT.... no i didnt get the vpp discount.... thanks anyway sting..

StuntDriver06 · 12-01-2006, 08:06 AM

this truck seems to drift in the lane a lot, my 06 never did at all..... any input?

MuskyHunter · 12-02-2006, 02:26 PM

Play around with your tire pressure for drift. I usually have my rear tires 1-2 psi lower than the front. Less understeer that way. I find that the truck tracks better with different front and rear tire pressures. When I got the truck they had all the tires up to 48 lbs. I run them 38 front, 36 rear for general driving, bump each up 2-4 lbs when towing my boat.

With a new truck, the back end sits up high. Same with my '05. Once I started to load the truck and tow, loading the springs seemed to settle everything down a bit. Over time, the back end didn't stick up as high unloaded. Maybe less weight bias when more level than raked? To test that theory, get 8 tubes of sand and put them in your bed for winter. The truck should track differently.

FuzzyLogic · 12-02-2006, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MuskyHunter

Play around with your tire pressure for drift. I usually have my rear tires 1-2 psi lower than the front. Less understeer that way. I find that the truck tracks better with different front and rear tire pressures. When I got the truck they had all the tires up to 48 lbs. I run them 38 front, 36 rear for general driving, bump each up 2-4 lbs when towing my boat.

With a new truck, the back end sits up high. Same with my '05. Once I started to load the truck and tow, loading the springs seemed to settle everything down a bit. Over time, the back end didn't stick up as high unloaded. Maybe less weight bias when more level than raked? To test that theory, get 8 tubes of sand and put them in your bed for winter. The truck should track differently.

48lbs.? I thought the max is 35 psi (on the 17 inch rims). That;s what my tires say.

ZubbyZu · 12-02-2006, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by StuntDriver06

this truck seems to drift in the lane a lot, my 06 never did at all..... any input?

Mine stopped drifting after the tire pressure was reduced from 45 to 35 psi and the wheels road force balanced. Apparently the pre-delivery checklist did not include the tires..

whiteLE · 12-02-2006, 11:17 PM

Musky

I think I may have what you are describing. When the steering wheel is straight, the vehicle pulls right (within a hundred feet, it will be on the shoulder). The surgeons at my dealer state its the grade of the road and the truck is meant to do that for safety. So, now 98% of the time my steering wheel is turned 10-15 degrees to the left. I run about 32 lbs in each tire.

Zubby--is roadforce balancing different than standard balancing? What was the charge? I have had my tires rotated but never balanced.

thanks
white

MuskyHunter · 12-02-2006, 11:40 PM

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I think I may have what you are describing. When the steering wheel is straight, the vehicle pulls right

I do realize vehicles are set up to drift to the right for safety. I think what he is describing is how much corrective steering is needed to keep the vehicle straight, not a result of the right bias. Of course, crowned roads, cross winds, etc. have an effect on this,

I do find that higher inflation exaggerates this characteristic, especially on crowned roads. As with my old truck, it seemed to track better over time requiring less steering effort and dialing in the tire pressure helped a lot. As for the different tire pressures front and rear, that was something I was always attentive to for autocrossing to balance out handling.

sudden urge · 12-02-2006, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by whiteLE

Musky

I think I may have what you are describing. When the steering wheel is straight, the vehicle pulls right (within a hundred feet, it will be on the shoulder). The surgeons at my dealer state its the grade of the road and the truck is meant to do that for safety. So, now 98% of the time my steering wheel is turned 10-15 degrees to the left. I run about 32 lbs in each tire.

Zubby--is roadforce balancing different than standard balancing? What was the charge? I have had my tires rotated but never balanced.

thanks
white

Well imo what the dealer told you is a bunch of bullshyt. Only reason I say that is because mine never drifts, unless there is a strong wind pushing on one side and that's not often. I'm running 35 psi in all 4 Goodyears.

cccagle30 · 12-03-2006, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by whiteLE

Musky

I think I may have what you are describing. When the steering wheel is straight, the vehicle pulls right (within a hundred feet, it will be on the shoulder). The surgeons at my dealer state its the grade of the road and the truck is meant to do that for safety. So, now 98% of the time my steering wheel is turned 10-15 degrees to the left. I run about 32 lbs in each tire.

Zubby--is roadforce balancing different than standard balancing? What was the charge? I have had my tires rotated but never balanced.

thanks
white

Mine drifted right also. My dealers response was" they chain them down so tight on the big rig, it knocks the alignment off." solution was road force balance and alignment. no charge. and now all is good.