Cipher ?

Canine · 12-11-2006, 09:33 PM

If I buy the Cipher softwear is that all I need to do 2 degree timing.

baseballfanz · 12-11-2006, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Canine

If I buy the Cipher softwear is that all I need to do 2 degree timing.

Yes the Cipher will let you do the 2* timing advance, it would ,et you adjust Idle RPM also.

Roadrunner · 12-11-2006, 10:01 PM

Where can you purchase the Cipher? Isnt like $500

baseballfanz · 12-11-2006, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Roadrunner

Where can you purchase the Cipher? Isnt like $500

$400 from www.uprev.com

SportCoupe · 12-12-2006, 08:20 AM

What are the major limitations of the Cipher?

Yellomantis · 12-12-2006, 08:43 AM

That's an awful expensive investment just to get a 2* timing advance...

Toomnymods · 12-12-2006, 08:48 AM

it's not expensive considering all it can do, the datalogging is nearly the main reason most want it.. plus you can get your investment back by chargin people 20 bucks each at meets for doing thier timing advance.. lol so basiclly u get it for free

Wiscdave · 12-12-2006, 08:51 AM

Anybody have one in WI I can pay $20 to for the advance?

Yellomantis · 12-12-2006, 08:52 AM

hmmmmmmm.... I wonder if he is in So. Cal....

TitanBlue · 12-12-2006, 05:56 PM

Psst, I only charge 40...oh, you said 20, eeeek...

Can't recall if I got the Cipher before or after the CAI/TBS. So much talk of it and the 2 degree and we were starting a monthly Titan club, so I decided to go ahead buy it. Figured club members might be interested, if not, OK. Never heard of many who actully had it, and still don't. Everyone is always looking for someone with it, to do the Advance. Just about broke even now. That's nice, but not my real purpose in getting it. The monitoring is unique as far as I know for Titan specific consumer software. I love gadgets and being able to measure accurately. If performance is all your after, just go for the UpRev Mail in Reflash instead.. otherwise, it is worth the 400, free upgrades included. I read somewhere that they will offer some sort of upgrade path for the ECU DIY Tuning thing, but it is really a seperate product from Cipher. I do hope for much improved graphical display in version 2.0.

Dr_Combustion · 12-12-2006, 06:33 PM

Cipher will also allow you to adjust the air/fuel ratio on FFV trucks. This can make a BIG difference in performance, especially with an exhaust or CAI since our ECU will "learn" and tend to run rich with these mods. Further, the new version of Consult III no longer has the capability of air/fuel ratio adjustments. There are eight of us who bought Cipher as a group, and we share it on two-week intervals. The final cost/member was $50, and it has been well worth the money.

earthling30 · 12-12-2006, 10:22 PM

Does anyone live in Alabama with a Cipher? I'm willing to pay a reasonable amount for the timing advance.

SKEET · 12-12-2006, 11:18 PM

If you plan on buying one of the new programmers coming out save your money the programmer will do the advance.

baseballfanz · 12-12-2006, 11:23 PM

If you get a programmer or ECU tuned, don't even worry about advancing timing as you will be running a tune map anyway.

autostnmn · 12-13-2006, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by baseballfanz

Yes the Cipher will let you do the 2* timing advance, it would ,et you adjust Idle RPM also.

Sorry to be such a newbie.... but, what would a 2* timing advance do exactly?