I'm not a smart man (ABS question)

**matthews** · 12-26-2007, 07:46 AM

OK, so I don't have a lot of man-knowledge. I admit it. So, during my recent skid into a guardrail, as I braked I heard/felt a clicking from the brakes...

Is that anti-lock brakes, in a nutshell?

37L1 · 12-26-2007, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by matthews

OK, so I don't have a lot of man-knowledge. I admit it. So, during my recent skid into a guardrail, as I braked I heard/felt a clicking from the brakes...

Is that anti-lock brakes, in a nutshell?

you should have heard a "grinding" sound and felt pulses through the pedal.

The anti-lock gives multiple "releases" to keep the wheel from a locked skid.

**matthews** · 12-26-2007, 08:17 AM

yeah that is what it was. Now I feel smrt

**Kronos1965** · 12-26-2007, 08:26 AM

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yeah that is what it was. Now I feel smrt

Sorry to read about your hit!

**matthews** · 12-26-2007, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Kronos1965

Sorry to read about your hit!

Yeah I wasn't exactly thrilled either. An intake will have to wait now

Clint · 12-26-2007, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by matthews

OK, so I don't have a lot of man-knowledge. I admit it. So, during my recent skid into a guardrail, as I braked I heard/felt a clicking from the brakes...

Is that anti-lock brakes, in a nutshell?

Sorry to hear what happened. How bad is the damage?
The pedal feels like you are getting tapped in the foot by a jackhammer when the abs kicks in.

Clint

**matthews** · 12-26-2007, 09:38 AM

It is not too bad....not as bad as I originally thought. I posted some pics on another thread. I am posting on my pda right now so finding it will be a pain.

I will fnd it later. I ordered the 2 bumper parts I think i will need the other day and will take it to the bodyshop when we get home next week

**matthews** · 12-26-2007, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by matthews

It is not too bad....not as bad as I originally thought. I posted some pics on another thread. I am posting on my pda right now so finding it will be a pain.

I will fnd it later. I ordered the 2 bumper parts I think i will need the other day and will take it to the bodyshop when we get home next week

Here's the thread w/ the pics: Bumper end and filler needed after ACCIDENT!!!

cneary812 · 12-26-2007, 11:11 AM

just remember that ABS is designed to have the brake applied fully and not to be let off at all till you regain control/ stop. Sorry about your accident. Just remember that our trucks are very heavy and will slide, while ABS is a very good safety feature as you found out it doesn't prevent all accidents.

**DeadRiver** · 12-26-2007, 11:19 AM

I remember the day I discovered ABS. None of my other cars has it and I was out playing in the snow with my Mazda. Locked em up (on purpose) and heard all kinds of popping and and noises... "so that's what abs sounds like"

I haven't decided if I like abs or not.. I know how to drive and the abs kinda screws that up at times. for future reference just stand on the brake pedal, it'll do what it thinks is best... I never like to let the machine control itself though.. seem wrong, they don't have eyes.

cneary812 · 12-26-2007, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DeadRiver

I remember the day I discovered ABS. None of my other cars has it and I was out playing in the snow with my Mazda. Locked em up (on purpose) and heard all kinds of popping and and noises... "so that's what abs sounds like"

I haven't decided if I like abs or not.. I know how to drive and the abs kinda screws that up at times. for future reference just stand on the brake pedal, it'll do what it thinks is best... I never like to let the machine control itself though.. seem wrong, they don't have eyes.

my biggest beef was when trucks started to add rear ABS back in the 90s. I had an old Isuzu that had Rear ABS. Talk about a crazy thing. You were supposed to lock the brakes just like with 4 wheel ABS but then your front wheels would lock and you would go straight with no control. Glad they nixed that idea and went with all or none. I can do with either way myself. But today's ABS sensors are really fast and react quickly which is a good thing for safety sake.

**DeadRiver** · 12-26-2007, 12:51 PM

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my biggest beef was when trucks started to add rear ABS back in the 90s. I had an old Isuzu that had Rear ABS. Talk about a crazy thing. You were supposed to lock the brakes just like with 4 wheel ABS but then your front wheels would lock and you would go straight with no control. Glad they nixed that idea and went with all or none. I can do with either way myself. But today's ABS sensors are really fast and react quickly which is a good thing for safety sake.

I was very impressed with the abs on the titan when i gave it a "test". But when skidding or losing control I still do that "should i really keep my foot down" equation in my head.

cneary812 · 12-26-2007, 12:54 PM

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I was very impressed with the abs on the titan when i gave it a "test". But when skidding or losing control I still do that "should i really keep my foot down" equation in my head.

Full ABS Mash brakes to the floor and hold steady pressure. If you pump them you are entirely defeating the designed purpose of the ABS system. You will still skid for a short time with ABS working but it allows you to have a more controlled stop VS locking up non ABS brakes and sliding out of control till you stop.

**DeadRiver** · 12-26-2007, 01:25 PM

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Full ABS Mash brakes to the floor and hold steady pressure. If you pump them you are entirely defeating the designed purpose of the ABS system. You will still skid for a short time with ABS working but it allows you to have a more controlled stop VS locking up non ABS brakes and sliding out of control till you stop.

yep, that's the exact part that feels weird. i grew up on the pump, now i just have to hold strong..

cneary812 · 12-26-2007, 01:27 PM

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yep, that's the exact part that feels weird. i grew up on the pump, now i just have to hold strong..

yeah us neanderthals just have to keep up with the times or we will be extinct