90-95 corvette ZR-1 filter replaces titans small filter... - Page 2

**roy365** · 01-28-2008, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TITAN DOHC V8

i will let ya guys know

i dont wanna use too thick of an oil i use 5w-30 in winter and 10w-30 in the summer, winter is cold in WI and i want good oil flow in the freZZZZing cold at start up.

depending if the ZR-1 filter fits with out too much hassle, i was looking into filter relocation kits, but i though this would be a quick easy way of upgrading with out doing too much work.

you have a good idea going there. Your idea wont increase as much as a relocation kit, but the cost wont be as much either.

Isnt 0weight oil lighter?

TITAN DOHC V8 · 01-28-2008, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by roy365

you have a good idea going there. Your idea wont increase as much as a relocation kit, but the cost wont be as much either.

Isnt 0weight oil lighter?

oops yea, i was referring to the straight 30 weight forgot to say that

jessefrank · 01-28-2008, 06:50 PM

Good catch.
I did this on my Mazda MX-6 V6 to help increase oil capacity. I'm not really sure it helped with my HLA ticking from the v6, but increasing oil capacity can't be a bad thing (unless you overfill your crankcase).

It may not really be needed for Our VK engines, but then again, how many of us spend $$ for synthetics and other items that aren't REALLY needed for our trucks?
In my A4, Audi did this to help with sludge in their 1.8t engines. They started using Syn oil, shorter OCI's and an HUGE oil filter so there was more oil capacity.

I may give this a try next time i change the oil as well.

**HudsonValleyTitan** · 01-28-2008, 08:13 PM

Not much need for more oil capacity since we hold 7 QTS already. Even if we were about to get a filter twice as long, what'll that get you?...another 1/2 QT?

Smoke05 · 01-28-2008, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by HudsonValleyTitan

Not much need for more oil capacity since we hold 7 QTS already. Even if we were about to get a filter twice as long, what'll that get you?...another 1/2 QT?

I was thinking the exact same thing. 1/2 a quart means nothing.

**anmut** · 01-29-2008, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TITAN DOHC V8

oops yea, i was referring to the straight 30 weight forgot to say that

You have a PM

TITAN DOHC V8 · 01-30-2008, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jessefrank

Good catch.
I did this on my Mazda MX-6 V6 to help increase oil capacity. I'm not really sure it helped with my HLA ticking from the v6, but increasing oil capacity can't be a bad thing (unless you overfill your crankcase).

It may not really be needed for Our VK engines, but then again, how many of us spend $$ for synthetics and other items that aren't REALLY needed for our trucks?
In my A4, Audi did this to help with sludge in their 1.8t engines. They started using Syn oil, shorter OCI's and an HUGE oil filter so there was more oil capacity.

I may give this a try next time i change the oil as well.

hang on there, this isn't a sure thing yet for the titan, i know the ZR-1 filter "can" replace the oem titan filter but i haven't done it. so dont just go buy a ZR-1 filter and change your oil and get stuck with it not fitting or leaking, i am not sure if there is room with the drain thing there for it to fit ,and if it seals on the mounting surface.

in my case i started using the ZR-1 filter for the probe and i will start buying some more to have in stock so i have them when i change the oil in my probe so i can just try throwing one on my titan to see if it even fits with out removal of the oil drainer for the filter. so if it doesn't fit i can still use it on the probe with no loss of time or money. if you still have the MX-6 jessefrank then its no loss for you either, just have a back up nissan filter just in case.

i don't wanna leave everyone in suspense to say, waiting for me to do my next oil change to see if this works if you want to do it and see if the ZR-1 filter fits thats cool, but i will be giving it a shot to see if it works. by then it should be warm out and i can throw my grille on i bought also.

---PM answered BTW---

johng_30 · 01-30-2008, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TITAN DOHC V8

hang on there, this isn't a sure thing yet for the titan, i know the ZR-1 filter "can" replace the oem titan filter but i haven't done it. so dont just go buy a ZR-1 filter and change your oil and get stuck with it not fitting or leaking, i am not sure if there is room with the drain thing there for it to fit ,and if it seals on the mounting surface.

in my case i started using the ZR-1 filter for the probe and i will start buying some more to have in stock so i have them when i change the oil in my probe so i can just try throwing one on my titan to see if it even fits with out removal of the oil drainer for the filter. so if it doesn't fit i can still use it on the probe with no loss of time or money. if you still have the MX-6 jessefrank then its no loss for you either, just have a back up nissan filter just in case.

i don't wanna leave everyone in suspense to say, waiting for me to do my next oil change to see if this works if you want to do it and see if the ZR-1 filter fits thats cool, but i will be giving it a shot to see if it works. by then it should be warm out and i can throw my grille on i bought also.

---PM answered BTW---

I mean no disrespect as I know you're just trying to share a tip but wouldn't it have been better to try this out first rather than speculating that it 'might' work just because it fits a Probe? It could be misleading for some folks on here who might try this swap assuming it works fine, when it may not actually fit correctly or worse could leak all of the oil out while driving resulting in major engine damage. The whole thing seems risky to me anyways but maybe that's just my screwed up perception surfacing again

If I were going to post something of this nature I'd have tried it first myself. Just my 2 cents.

Rick Guess · 01-30-2008, 09:11 PM

anmut, i told you that girl in your avatar needs a good spakning!

i will spank her and administer her lashings (with my lips)

for a period not to exceed 1 week

now send her here

also
i was understanding that Amsoil had a system for two filters to go on the Titan

look here

http://www.amsoil.com/bypassfilters/...ssan_Titan.pdf

TITAN DOHC V8 · 01-30-2008, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by johng_30

I mean no disrespect as I know you're just trying to share a tip but wouldn't it have been better to try this out first rather than speculating that it 'might' work just because it fits a Probe? It could be misleading for some folks on here who might try this swap assuming it works fine, when it may not actually fit correctly or worse could leak all of the oil out while driving resulting in major engine damage. The whole thing seems risky to me anyways but maybe that's just my screwed up perception surfacing again

If I were going to post something of this nature I'd have tried it first myself. Just my 2 cents.

none taken.
yea that would have been the best route but i just did a oil change on my titan and i realized this when i did the oil change on the probe a few days before when i saw the list under the parts america link i have posed up when i was looking at ZR-1 filters and just wanted to see what other cars the M1 110 fit. i am going to try this my self but i also posted this so others could try this. i thinks it implied when you change something from factory size to a larger or aftermarket item you keep an eye on it for a while and not just slap it on and call it a day. i checked the filter on the probe numerous times since my install just to check if it leaks even though i know for a fact that it works on probes from who knows how many people running the larger filter. yes it is a different car and different set up, but like i said i did throw it out there so share the info i have learned. never know if this fits and works well next thing you know this might be the most popular mod on the titan. i don't know on the probe forums but i bet everyone had their speculations when the first person said the corvette filter fits.

just tryin to help out the titan buds here lol

TITAN DOHC V8 · 11-04-2008, 04:42 PM

bringing up a old thread...

well i finally got to try the zr1 filter on the titan. it works! had it on for about a week now with no leaks or fitment issues. it is a little close the the filter drain channel but so far i dont see any contact between the two.

titanss · 11-04-2008, 05:47 PM

Lets see some pics. of it installed.

**helomech** · 11-04-2008, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TITAN DOHC V8

a little extra oil capacity and possible better flow of oil. it brought the capacity of oil on the probe up to approx 5qt from 4.5qt.

i know it not needed but i just threw it out there as an option is someone wanted to try after i found out the probe and titan have the same filter and the ZR-1 works well on the probe.

do you know the part number for the longer filter? i might try the ZR-1 filter if no one else want to since i need them from the probe anyway. guess i will see if it works in about 2.5 months.

The size of the fliter has nothing to do with the flow of the filter. How many people actually beleive this crap.

The nissan filter is more than adequate.

Yahooligan · 11-04-2008, 06:17 PM

I just read this whole thread and still have to wonder...

Why?

What is "wrong" with the current filter that makes you think a different filter would have any benefit? You said it may give "better" oil flow, how would increased flow help anything if there are no problems to begin with? More flow isn't always a good thing if it sacrifices filtering ability.

I understand it helped with your Probe, but that's about as relevant as cheese in a telephone.

Unless you can answer WHY the ZR-1 filter works different I don't see the point in doing it, it's an experiment to look for a change when there's nothing wrong to begin with.

Saying "it works!" just because it doesn't leak is leaving a lot up to speculation and assumption. You don't know how well it's filtering or if it is causing more wear, you don't know if there's enough surface area to get the job done.

The only way to know for SURE that it works is to get a baseline oil analysis done, then run the ZR-1 filter with the same oil and get additional analysis done after each oil change. One of 3 things will happen:

1) Oil analysis shows the same pattern as the baseline so no point in straying from what Nissan recommends.
2) Oil analysis shows reduced wear, great find. Spread the word!
3) Oil analysis shows increased wear, bad find! Go back to the proper filter and never look back.

Of those 3 results there's only 1 that would be a reason to use the filter. So, let us know how the oil analysis comes back after a couple of oil changes with the ZR-1 filter compared to the Nissan filter, ok? Without that info this "mod" is baseless.

**HudsonValleyTitan** · 11-04-2008, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TITAN DOHC V8

bringing up a old thread...

well i finally got to try the zr1 filter on the titan. it works! had it on for about a week now with no leaks or fitment issues. it is a little close the the filter drain channel but so far i dont see any contact between the two.

A larger filter will give more filtering area. I just don't think it's needed. I'd worry more about not having the right size filter.