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Old 03-20-2008, 12:01 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Question for those with white Titans

Never had any of those problems with the paint....ever. I've had several white cars and trucks. Mud flaps may help with this problem.
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Old 03-20-2008, 12:07 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Question for those with white Titans

Where bouts do you live HUDSON? In northeast Pa. we several industrial plants and trains and the fallout is terrible on white vehicles. Forest Fires and changes in the jet stream can sometimes bring fallout into areas that don't normally see it. Usually the spots are very small and hard to see on white cause it's such a bright color. You have to look very close.

Try this...If you can carefully scrape it off with the tip of a fingernail, you should be able to take it off easily with a clay bar..Just don't be too aggressive.

Also, I've been posting up more tips in the "DETAILING" section for people who want some advice...

Please don't think I'm trying to be a know it all though. I detailed 5 cars a day for 10 years so you kinda see it all.

An old guy told me once that "Experience is what you get right after you need it"... That is absolutely the truth. So any chance I get to help someone from making a mistake...I try.

Here's an article that can help explain what Fallout is: http://www.epa.gov/acidrain/effects/auto.html (whole article )

The general consensus within the auto industry is that some form of environmental fallout causes the damage. “Environmental fallout”—a term widely used in the auto and coatings industries—refers to damage caused by air pollution (e.g., acid rain), decaying insects, bird droppings, pollen, and tree sap. The results of laboratory experiments and at least one field study have demonstrated that acid rain can scar automotive coatings. Furthermore, chemical analyses of the damaged areas of some exposed test panels indicate elevated levels of sulfate, implicating acid rain.

The popular term “acid rain” refers to both wet and dry deposition of acidic pollutants that may damage material surfaces, including auto finishes. These pollutants, which are released when coal and other fossil fuels are burned, react with water vapor and oxidants in the atmosphere and are chemically transformed into sulfuric and nitric acids. The acidic compounds then may fall to earth as rain, snow, fog, or may join dry particles and fall as dry deposition. All forms of acid rain, including dry deposition, especially when dry acidic deposition is mixed with dew or rain, may damage automotive coatings. However, it has been difficult to quantify the specific contribution of acid rain to paint finish damage relative to damage caused by other forms of environmental fallout, by the improper application of paint or by deficient paint formulations. According to coating experts, trained specialists can differentiate between the various forms of damage, but the best way of determining the cause of chemically induced damage is to conduct a detailed, chemical analysis of the damaged area.
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Re: Question for those with white Titans

I have a 2005 and haven't had any of those issues that's been mentioned and am very happy with the white paint on the truck!!

Get a white one!!!!
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Re: Question for those with white Titans

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Where bouts do you live HUDSON? In northeast Pa. we several industrial plants and trains and the fallout is terrible on white vehicles. Forest Fires and changes in the jet stream can sometimes bring fallout into areas that don't normally see it. Usually the spots are very small and hard to see on white cause it's such a bright color. You have to look very close.

Try this...If you can carefully scrape it off with the tip of a fingernail, you should be able to take it off easily with a clay bar..Just don't be too aggressive.

Also, I've been posting up more tips in the "DETAILING" section for people who want some advice...

Please don't think I'm trying to be a know it all though. I detailed 5 cars a day for 10 years so you kinda see it all.

An old guy told me once that "Experience is what you get right after you need it"... That is absolutely the truth. So any chance I get to help someone from making a mistake...I try.

Here's an article that can help explain what Fallout is: http://www.epa.gov/acidrain/effects/auto.html (whole article )

The general consensus within the auto industry is that some form of environmental fallout causes the damage. “Environmental fallout”—a term widely used in the auto and coatings industries—refers to damage caused by air pollution (e.g., acid rain), decaying insects, bird droppings, pollen, and tree sap. The results of laboratory experiments and at least one field study have demonstrated that acid rain can scar automotive coatings. Furthermore, chemical analyses of the damaged areas of some exposed test panels indicate elevated levels of sulfate, implicating acid rain.

The popular term “acid rain” refers to both wet and dry deposition of acidic pollutants that may damage material surfaces, including auto finishes. These pollutants, which are released when coal and other fossil fuels are burned, react with water vapor and oxidants in the atmosphere and are chemically transformed into sulfuric and nitric acids. The acidic compounds then may fall to earth as rain, snow, fog, or may join dry particles and fall as dry deposition. All forms of acid rain, including dry deposition, especially when dry acidic deposition is mixed with dew or rain, may damage automotive coatings. However, it has been difficult to quantify the specific contribution of acid rain to paint finish damage relative to damage caused by other forms of environmental fallout, by the improper application of paint or by deficient paint formulations. According to coating experts, trained specialists can differentiate between the various forms of damage, but the best way of determining the cause of chemically induced damage is to conduct a detailed, chemical analysis of the damaged area.
I'm on the other side of the hudson river from you....a little ways away from you and ...me being the anal guy I am about my truck, I'd notice anything on the paint. In a few weeks we'll be cursing that damn green pollen crap on the cars! I also park in my garage and wash my cars at least once a week...sometimes more.
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Old 03-20-2008, 04:44 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Re: Question for those with white Titans

No problems with my white paint. I got white to match the base color of my boat, and it also stays a lot cooler in the summer. If they offered Red Alert in 04, I would have went with that being red is the first accent color on my boat. The only thing I don't like about white is that it does not highlight the nice lines of the Titan.
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Re: Question for those with white Titans

Well, one positive way of looking at "fallout" is that with white you are likely to see it and do something about it. With other colors, you may not notice and let it go for too long of time and causing paint damage.

The reason I went with white is that it hides the orange peel that is so common with paint these days and it visually seems to hold it's appeal over other darker colors, which show its age over time. Lastly, white does a nice job of hiding light dust, giving you longer enjoyment after a car wash. Silver is another good color with these characteristics, but too common on the road.

The only issue I run into is small dots of road tar from those tar and pea gravel roads, but that is easy to deal with.
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Re: Question for those with white Titans

I have a silver 05 KC and had a lot of spots on mine. I used a clay bar and it came out great. I live in california, I think that is the problem not the paint
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Re: Question for those with white Titans

My majestic blue Pro-4X is my first non-white vehicle that I have owned in a really long time.
I hated the rust looking spots that would show up on previous white vehicles that I have owned, however, they always would come off with a clay bar.
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Re: Question for those with white Titans

These spots people are referring to is what seems commonly a result of "rail dust". Google this term and you will find a wealth of info. I'm currently going through this with my current truck.
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Re: Question for those with white Titans

HudsonValleyTitan is right on the money....If you wash it regulary...the stuff doesn't have a chance to really bond so frequent washes will remove it.

Muskeyhunter is also right on because white does make you man-up to keep it clean although white is hard to stare at in the sun...you need polarized glasses.

Again, I'll try to post up some different Ideas and techniques in the "detailing and tuck care" section.
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Re: Question for those with white Titans

No paint spotting here but I've had some pretty bad chipping due to all the dam semi-trucks on I-40. Keep in mind this based on 200 miles per week on the interstate. So here's to all the semis that have shattered my windshield and stripped the paint on my front-end Sorry just venting cuz I luv my truck. Fender flares cured the paint chipping caused by my own tires around the wheel wells. Look cool too. By the way I'm new to this forum and have found it highly informative.
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Re: Question for those with white Titans

This issue really sucks to deal with. I already knew what it was and went straight for the claybar. I've done it twice now, usually right after winter. Claybar then wax and continue to wash, wax.
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Re: Question for those with white Titans

Sucks especially when you're anal about paint like I am.
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Re: Question for those with white Titans

I've white Titan, I bought it because that was the only 4X4 CC dealer had and gave me a deal that I couldn't refuse. The tail gate had some spots that looked like chips and rust, but dealer took care of it....they buffed it, so far none. Only thing is it gets dirty too quick, especially with the pollen and rain here in South. But I like the color itself.
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Re: Question for those with white Titans

mine's usually dirty.i think mud looks real good on white paint..but clean looks wise, to me is one of the best out there.
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