Thoughts on titan vs. hemi ram - Page 6

creaturefromthedeep · 06-26-2004, 03:59 PM

Go test drive one, and who cares what your family thinks for all you know they are all drooling over the Titan, and are just waiting for the first to flinch.
"To be yourself in a world that tries night and day, to make you just like everbody else is to fight the greatest battle there ever is to fight, and never stop fighting."

carbap82 · 06-26-2004, 04:06 PM

Is Dodge much faster than Ford? My boss has a 03 250 SD, as you know it has turbo also. It's fast, but will not keep up with the Titan in a race.

creaturefromthedeep · 06-26-2004, 04:06 PM

and that's American

PHOEBISIS · 06-26-2004, 05:40 PM

High 12's is(must be 110mph or more) very quick for a 6900 lbs truck.I don't have a 1/4 mile conversion chart in front of me,but it must take at leat 600 RWHP to do that.You can get that out of a Cummins .What PSI do they use stock?If they use 7.5 psi stock,you could get in the 600 hp range with about 29 psi-a big boost.
Turbo Diesels have a huge advantage over spark engines because they can run very high boost with stock fuel.Most stock spark engines can go to maybe5-7 psi on 93 octane(about 30-45% increase in power),but after that they will detonate.It is relatively cheap to just jack up the turbo and fuel flow on a Turbo Diesel.No way can a "STOCK"spark engine double power as cheaply.
.Now stock vs stock-the Titan is faster than any Diesel pickup the Big Three make.Nothing against Diesels pickups,but I doubt the Big 3 make a Diesel pickup that is under 5500 lbs-a RC Ram 3/4 ton is probably the lightest.Luck,Charlie
PS I like the Hemi Ram,(almost bought a Quad cab)drove it before the Titan-they felt a lot alike.I bought the Titan because the Sidecurtain airbags were really impossible to find on the base pickup I could afford.I bought a XE KC 2WD-cost $22680+TTL.The Dodge dealers said they rarely saw a Side Curtain Hemi,and it was always loaded-MSRP ~38,000 selling for $31,000.The base Titan and Hemi Ram are both relatively cheap hot rod trucks~$20000 gets you 255 rwhp and a useful vehicle that can carry 6 people and a lot of cargo.

pagerdaddy · 06-26-2004, 06:23 PM

My next door neighbor waved me over this evening to look at the used truck his wife just bought. It is a used 2002 Ford F150 Harley Davidson, with 26k miles. We opened the hood, and it has a supercharged 5.4 liter. It is a 4 door
2 wd with 20" wheels. Good looking truck. Makes his 1974 F100 with the rust spots look pretty bad.

If he is lucky, she said she might let him drive it once in a while.

How fast will this truck be?

Steve

**CaliforniaTitan** · 06-26-2004, 06:33 PM

Steve,

The Supercharged Harley F-150's are pretty nice. A friend of our family owns one. Personally I love the Supercharger power over Turbo. The day I drove it though, I wasn't thinking about how fast she would go...more likethe overall experience/ride of the truck. She handles pretty good too but he has 'added' a few mods to include suspension.

Chris

BudmanHemi · 06-26-2004, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PHOEBISIS

High 12's is(must be 110mph or more) very quick for a 6900 lbs truck.I don't have a 1/4 mile conversion chart in front of me,but it must take at leat 600 RWHP to do that.You can get that out of a Cummins .What PSI do they use stock?If they use 7.5 psi stock,you could get in the 600 hp range with about 29 psi-a big boost.
Turbo Diesels have a huge advantage over spark engines because they can run very high boost with stock fuel.Most stock spark engines can go to maybe5-7 psi on 93 octane(about 30-45% increase in power),but after that they will detonate.It is relatively cheap to just jack up the turbo and fuel flow on a Turbo Diesel.No way can a "STOCK"spark engine double power as cheaply.
.Now stock vs stock-the Titan is faster than any Diesel pickup the Big Three make.Nothing against Diesels pickups,but I doubt the Big 3 make a Diesel pickup that is under 5500 lbs-a RC Ram 3/4 ton is probably the lightest.Luck,Charlie
PS I like the Hemi Ram,(almost bought a Quad cab)drove it before the Titan-they felt a lot alike.I bought the Titan because the Sidecurtain airbags were really impossible to find on the base pickup I could afford.I bought a XE KC 2WD-cost $22680+TTL.The Dodge dealers said they rarely saw a Side Curtain Hemi,and it was always loaded-MSRP ~38,000 selling for $31,000.The base Titan and Hemi Ram are both relatively cheap hot rod trucks~$20000 gets you 255 rwhp and a useful vehicle that can carry 6 people and a lot of cargo.

Diesels are amazing. You can get over 100hp with just a programmer. The mods on them are unbeleivable. Add some fuel injectors (huge gain) and some propane. Its very cheap to get them big heavy trucks to run 12's. My next may be a cummins. Needs alittle less noise, and i am still scared of the problems of cold engine start after a few years. I dont want to be plugging a 5yr old truck in everynight. My commute is 16miles a day, but if it were a long commute, or serious heavy hauling diesel is the way to go.

SupraTitan · 06-26-2004, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaTitan

Steve,

Personally I love the Supercharger power over Turbo.

Chris

You haven't had the oppurtunity to ride in a supra turbo yet huh, you would forget all about the annoying whine of a blower. Just remember turbo lag is just there to give the opponent a false sense of hope. I've even had folks start to wave like there going to continue to pull me, only to turn the wave into a jaw dropping, oh sh*t. Then just so they know I can prevent them from even getting a jump from a roll, I can brake boost and have zero lag and put car lengths on them right off the bat in round 2.

1# ton · 06-26-2004, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHOEBISIS

High 12's is(must be 110mph or more) very quick for a 6900 lbs truck.I don't have a 1/4 mile conversion chart in front of me,but it must take at leat 600 RWHP to do that.You can get that out of a Cummins .What PSI do they use stock?If they use 7.5 psi stock,you could get in the 600 hp range with about 29 psi-a big boost.
Turbo Diesels have a huge advantage over spark engines because they can run very high boost with stock fuel.Most stock spark engines can go to maybe5-7 psi on 93 octane(about 30-45% increase in power),but after that they will detonate.It is relatively cheap to just jack up the turbo and fuel flow on a Turbo Diesel.No way can a "STOCK"spark engine double power as cheaply.
.Now stock vs stock-the Titan is faster than any Diesel pickup the Big Three make.Nothing against Diesels pickups,but I doubt the Big 3 make a Diesel pickup that is under 5500 lbs-a RC Ram 3/4 ton is probably the lightest.Luck,Charlie
PS I like the Hemi Ram,(almost bought a Quad cab)drove it before the Titan-they felt a lot alike.I bought the Titan because the Sidecurtain airbags were really impossible to find on the base pickup I could afford.I bought a XE KC 2WD-cost $22680+TTL.The Dodge dealers said they rarely saw a Side Curtain Hemi,and it was always loaded-MSRP ~38,000 selling for $31,000.The base Titan and Hemi Ram are both relatively cheap hot rod trucks~$20000 gets you 255 rwhp and a useful vehicle that can carry 6 people and a lot of cargo.

In a gas engine yes but not in a Diesal. I have twice the torque as horse power, Horse power means very little in a diesal.

tjchapin · 06-27-2004, 03:57 PM

Better hope that this awesome piece of engineering is a lasting one. iwas serioes about buying a Titan after driving the Big Three. Glad I drove a Tundra, and bought it. I do think the motor/drivetrain of teh Titan is awesome, but it is still in its first production year. For the same reason I bought my Tacoma over the Frontier, I prodomitably bought my Tundra, I think thier both UGLY!