jl audio prowedge 10w7 pictures in truck.

[smoketitan]

Originally Posted by 04titan

ran out of $$. as far as my girl; "one more are we there yet" and its metallica for you!! lol.

thats funny

[WazzuCoug]

HA HA HA all I can think of is "enter sandman" and one little girl ballin her head off. I am as anxious as everyone else to hear about your verdict when you get a chance in January. If my math is correct at $200 an increase we are talking $800-900, and $1000-1100, respecively, assuming you get a deal for the larger woofers. I have a 1000W rms amp, but I could see how a 10w7 sounds just about right from the wallets perspective!

[04titan]

im sure all of them could handle 1000 watts, but im only looking for 130 clean db's and the 10w7 will put me there comfortably. the other two would be overkill for my needs, especially the wallet..

[dman]

Originally Posted by WazzuCoug

If my math is correct at $200 an increase we are talking $800-900, and $1000-1100, respecively, assuming you get a deal for the larger woofers. I have a 1000W rms amp, but I could see how a 10w7 sounds just about right from the wallets perspective!

Well you do have a choice. To get higher sound levels and better sound quality just go to www.adireaudio.com and check out their Car Audio section. Pick up a Brahma in a 10, 12, or 15 inches. If you compare the 10w7 with a Brahma 10" you will see that the Brahma has much greater xmax - the distance the cone will travel (simplified: the great the distance the cone moves, the more air movement, hence the louder it will go). Additionally the Brahma utilizes a smaller box, and can actually play lower. The best part is, is that it is much cheaper than a JL. Pair a Brahma with a "Sub Zero" box (designed for these speakers) and you would have one kick azz sub with better performance, sound quality, for less money. Truly a bargain when considering no holds barred subs.

Be sure to check out the vids on the site too!

Not to diss 04Titan's sub, just saying there may be alternatives out there for you audio finatics.

[WazzuCoug]

Lately I have been hearing a lot of good stuff about Brahma subs, and I will definitely give them a good look when my stereo gets stolen-or better yet I get sick of it and sell it (kind of sad when you basically accept the fact that equipment is going to be stolen). I currently have a RF power HX2 15", and I am working on building a box with a similar style to 04titan, behind the drivers seat.

Hey dman,

How do you think a pair of Brahma 12"s would sound? How much $? And would they fit under the seats?

[K-MU]

Yes Brahamas are also great subs, easier to power because of their coils ohms, you dont need special amps running at 3 ohms...

[smoketitan]

brahmas are very nice subs by the way, but not nearly as articulate as w7's

but if you dont know what you are doing as far as the box design all w7's will be boomy (I have heard some good some bad)

adire's customer service sucks if that matters to you, but the brahma has won many awards and contest, I personally wont buy another adire product (buts thats only becuase they screwed me on a koda10, I had)

from my ears the w6v2 sound a little less boomy and more articluate thant the w7s, but no where near the output

and just to note all these super subs you all are looking at have very large mouting depths over 6.5" which means you are going to loose all back seat space

[dman]

Originally Posted by smoketitan

brahmas are very nice subs by the way, but not nearly as articulate as w7's

but if you dont know what you are doing as far as the box design all w7's will be boomy (I have heard some good some bad)

adire's customer service sucks if that matters to you, but the brahma has won many awards and contest, I personally wont buy another adire product (buts thats only becuase they screwed me on a koda10, I had)

from my ears the w6v2 sound a little less boomy and more articluate thant the w7s, but no where near the output

and just to note all these super subs you all are looking at have very large mouting depths over 6.5" which means you are going to loose all back seat space

I have never used a Brahma, but everything I have seen and read indicate that their sound quality is as good and in many cases better than a W7. As you stated though it is all about design and setup. The best sub in the world can easily sound like crap w/o the right box design. I have also heard that w7s have the tendency to be boomy (not in a good way).

So what happened with the Koda that you bought...what issues did you have. I had one small incident with adire. I purchased a Tempest to design and build a home theater sub with. It was delivered with a bent frame...UPS shipping damage...sigh. I had trouble getting anywhere with adire as they never seemed to want to follow back up with UPS or myself. I was finally able to get a new Tempest but it was a bit of a lengthy process. However this definitely will not keep me from making other purchases with them as the make some of the best products and some of the best values in the industry.

[dman]

Originally Posted by WazzuCoug

Hey dman,

How do you think a pair of Brahma 12"s would sound? How much $? And would they fit under the seats?

A pair of Brahma 12"s would be incredible...or should I say incredibly loud. Unless you compete this would probably be overkill...your hearing would suffer. If I were to go the adire route, I would most likely do 1 12" Brahma with a good solid amp...these beasts can handle a tremendous amount of power. With that being said Brahmas will not fit UNDER your seats...the speaker mounting depth is just too deep. That and given the fact that you have to provide enough room for the cone to move back and forth you would have to flip up the seat to get this to work or use a box like '04Titan.

This being the case you MAY be able to work with a 12" Shiva or the Koda series. I haven't checked the depth under the seats but it could be possible. These are still very good subs they just aren't quite as extreme as Brahmas. Shivas are probably the most used subs for DIY (do-it-yourself) audio nuts that design and build their own home theater subs. That says ALOT about the quality and sound of these speakers.

[smoketitan]

Yep I agree with everytihng you stated about jl/adire

w7 can be boomy if your box is not perfect to specs, and very thick 0.75"-1". while personally think they are great I dont think the w7 is for the weekend warrior car audio person, I think the w6v2 is a much better option

If you look at 04's box that is 1" mdf

but as far adire yes they make great products!!

the koda10 I had (which sounded very nice by the way but needed a large box)
had this weird burping sound to it, when you turn the volume up (now mine you this was with only 300W. called adire and they told me I didnt know how to make a box, and that it was my fault, shipped it back they charged me a restock fee of $55, and I had to pay the return shipping.

read in a forum a few weeks later, that the head engineer at adire replied to, that in actuality the burping noise was because the cone was slapping the tinsels or (something like that I cant remember) inside the woofer as it was being overworked. so basically becuase they had a bad design they charged me $65 bucks for 1wk, thats why I dont like their customer service

seems you had an issue with them also

from what I have heard personally

w7
w6v2
oz audio matrix
tc sounds tc2, tc7, tc9
re xxx
image dynamics IDv3 IDmax

and as soon they make them Ill try out the new ED 0v.2 series, or even the kv.2 series I hear they are very nice soudnign woofers ( bestatchess has one 10"--I believe)

for our trucks//due to space

Id like 4 8's (or two 8w7's--but remember the box has to be perfect!!)


or two ED 13kv.2 firing down or up, two arc audio 12v2 firing up or down (or the 10" versions of both of these)

I say this since the rear can only take a speaker with a depth of 6", and there is about 0.7-0.8 cu ft per side depending on your box buildind skills firing up or down

if my tcsound 8's dont sound good thats the route im taking (mine will be installed tonight if my box arrives)

[04titan]

i heard a lot a good things about the brahma too, that they take a lot of power (500watts not enough) and sound good. the only thing bad is the above mentioned tensil lead slap, which was complained about alot in the richard clark forums a while back. i considered brahma and especially the idmax, but due to the reputation and quality of jl audio and the fact that i could purchase a system (box designed for woofer by same manufacturer) with a two year warranty, i went with the big dog. its a lot of money for sure! but you only live once, right!!

[lizardking]

JLAudio products are way overpriced, don't get me wrong nice stuff but way overpriced. I thought the W7's sounded extremely boomy no matter what box design I have heard them in so far. To me the W7 is more for SPL and not SQ. I thought the Eclipse SW9100 series walked all over it when I heard compared side by side. I've had several different subs in my day and far different setups and I finally found a Company that to me makes the best subs and amps on the market and they our Eclipse. I haven't heard Brahama's yet and hopefully will get a chance. You have to decide if you want SPL or SQ or something in between. It really comes down to what sounds good to you and how you set it up.

[04titan]

well i hope your wrong, because i want sq first, we will see. otherwise, 10w7 prowedge for sale, barely used, in perfect condition, one month old to the highest bidder. lol.