Rough Country 2" lift

Titanguy86 · 03-21-2005, 08:09 PM

Has any one seen or used this lift?? Is it a leveling kit or a actual lift? http://store.4wheelingplus.com/prodd...od=840&cat=112

KC8 · 03-21-2005, 08:16 PM

A 2" lift on the front is a "leveling kit". If this is what you are looking for, go with the PRG kit.

Titanguy86 · 03-21-2005, 08:19 PM

I am going with the prg kit, but this comes with blocks and u bolts also. so it lifts the front and rear 2"?

KC8 · 03-21-2005, 08:28 PM

Sorry, I just looked at the picture. I would stay away from that type front spacer (like Daystar). If you also want a rear lift, I think PRG is offering that as an option now. I don't think you can go with a 2" lift in the rear without getting longer shocks. Talk to PrerunnerGreg.

Mike H. · 03-21-2005, 10:11 PM

It is the Daystar, just marketed under a different wrapper. Stick with the PRG. And yes you will need shocks.

Justintoxicated · 03-21-2005, 10:43 PM

I got the PRG knock off on ebay $99 way better than that kit im sure. I didn't know about the PRG at the time though. I found this forum after I ordered. I'll take some pics when I get it though. Sorry Prerunner, your kit looks very nice + support from yourself I'm sureit is worth it

. However I know someone that installs these for a living that is going to help me out so wish me luck! Also I'm just leveling the front not lifting the rear, if I was going to do that I would buy real suspension, and I eventually plan to for sure! Glamis here I come!

NorCal 4x4 · 03-22-2005, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Justintoxicated

I got the PRG knock off on ebay $99 way better than that kit im sure. I didn't know about the PRG though, I found this forum after I ordered. I'll takre some pics when I get it though.

Your right that a design that doesn't pre-load the springs like Daystar, CST, Rough Country, etc. do, is better, but the knock offs still run the potential to mess up your Titan! Only the PRG kit has been proven to be Titan safe.

Can you return these to the seller? If not, maybe auction them off on E-bay for $80 or so, and cut your losses. It may be the best $20 you ever lost. [Or eat the whole loss if this is unethical to you].

Read the following link if you need convincing, (as an example: "Another issue is that without replacement bump stops, there is a potential for shock failure).":
http://www.titantalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=273446&postcount=6

Then order, or save your money up and get the PRG kit, and enjoy.

It's your truck, treat her right.

Justintoxicated · 03-22-2005, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by swarren1

Your right that a design that doesn't pre-load the springs like Daystar, CST, Rough Country, etc. do, is better, but the knock offs still run the potential to mess up your Titan! Only the PRG kit has been proven to be Titan safe.

Can you return these to the seller? If not, maybe auction them off on E-bay for $80 or so, and cut your losses. It may be the best $20 you ever lost. [Or eat the whole loss if this is unethical to you].

Read the following link if you need convincing, (as an example: "Another issue is that without replacement bump stops, there is a potential for shock failure).":
http://www.titantalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=273446&postcount=6

Then order, or save your money up and get the PRG kit, and enjoy.

It's your truck, treat her right.

I read that post but I already ordered, if I blow the rappy Rancho suspension I'll get new shocks, wait I take it back I'll get a real suspension lift. I just got the offroad kit for the locker anyways. I'll see what I can do about getting some bumpstops. like I said teh PRG would be worth the extra $ for the piece of mind and support.

c_t_smith · 03-22-2005, 01:47 PM

I think this tends to get blown way out of proportion around here. I'm sure that the PRG leveling kit is a nice product, but come on. It's not fair to imply that it's the ONLY safe option for a spacer lift! The bumpstops should be extended w/ any lift of this type, but that doesn't mean that a spacer is crap if it doesn't include them. It just means that you have to pick them out seprately.

Don't loose any sleep over your decision to purchase the "knock off." Just pick up some bumpstop extensions and enjoy your lift.

Sammy Sandbag · 03-22-2005, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by c_t_smith

I think this tends to get blown way out of proportion around here. I'm sure that the PRG leveling kit is a nice product, but come on. It's not fair to imply that it's the ONLY safe option for a spacer lift! The bumpstops should be extended w/ any lift of this type, but that doesn't mean that a spacer is crap if it doesn't include them. It just means that you have to pick them out seprately.

Don't loose any sleep over your decision to purchase the "knock off." Just pick up some bumpstop extensions and enjoy your lift.

Speaking from experience, I would have to disagree. The Rough Country kit is made by Day Star, as is the Skyjacker and CST level kits. I bought the Skyjacker kit about six months ago, right before the PRG kit came out. I had the same attitude you have, that I already had spent the money and didn't want to buy another. Well that was a mistake, and I regretted it every day I drove the truck untill this December when I removed the Skyjacker and installed the PRG kit. The bumpstops are a nice addition, but not the main reason why the PRG is better. The DayStar type lift loads the spring up, giving a stiffer ride, my main reason for disliking it. It also causes the shocks to fail, especially on OR equipped Titans. While my shocks didn't blow, I did get some very strange noises occasionally from the front end. The PRG kit was much easier to install (no spring compressor needed) and the ride is just like stock. Learn by my mistakes, don't install the DayStar kit.

edit, this is in regards to the DayStar type lift, I can't tell from Justintoxicated's discription exactly what type of lift he has.

NOLA TITAN · 03-23-2005, 06:34 PM

Here is my .02 I have the Daystar leveling kit and it is a good product. I spent alot of time on the phone with Daystar about this kit because I was skeptical. The problem lies witht he installation. For people who are putting this on in their driveway with a J hook to depress the springs unevenly, you will have problems. The J hook tends to bend the strut shaft and breaks the strut. If you take your springs to someone with a wall mounted hydraulic spring compressor, you will have no problems. This machine compresses the spring evenly, thus no strut shaft bend. My truck rides like a dream, and I have had no probs!!! Good luck .

Sammy Sandbag · 03-23-2005, 06:47 PM

I think you will find that a large number of those that experienced DayStar problems actually had them installed by professionals using stut compressors. I installed mine myself using an actual strut compressor as you describe. How it was installed doesn't change the fact that the strut will be extended further than normal, factory lengths, or the fact that the spring becomes preloaded causing a slightly stiffer ride.

NOLA TITAN · 03-23-2005, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sammy sandbag

I think you will find that a large number of those that experienced DayStar problems actually had them installed by professionals using stut compressors. I installed mine myself using an actual strut compressor as you describe. How it was installed doesn't change the fact that the strut will be extended further than normal, factory lengths, or the fact that the spring becomes preloaded causing a slightly stiffer ride.

I guess me and my buddy are just lucky, we have both had the Daystar kits with no problems or change in the ride. It rides like the day i got it, except it looks a whole lot better. My buddy has put on about 25- 30 Daystar kits at his 4x4 shop with no reported problems.

Sammy Sandbag · 03-23-2005, 06:56 PM

Well don't get wrong idea, I'm not say that 100% of the Titan's with the DayStar kit have had problems, but an alarming amount of them have. And I think that it's nearly impossible for the ride to remain stock, just due to the change in spring rate or load or whatever technical term applies here. While it's not a huge difference, I could definately tell, especially after removing it and going to the PRG. And did your buddy put all those kits on Titans or were they other brands? From what I've read, it seems to be mainly a Titan Off Road Package specific problem, although I've read of a few non-OR failures.

NOLA TITAN · 03-23-2005, 07:01 PM

I'm glad you are happy with the prg kit. I would have to disagree with you on the ride issue at least in my case. I can tell no difference in the way it rides from stock to now. I really think it is in the way you install the kit and how well you compress the springs if you have problems or not. Anyway, I would have to recommend that people spend the extra money on the PRG kit since people have had problems with the Daystar kit.