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Old 05-23-2005, 11:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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power windows

How are you guys doing? i just bought my titan, but i was so stupid to get it without power windows, that really sucks has anyone had intalled power windows or is it even possible i been looking all over the internet looking for power windows kits, but they just dont do it i dont think a 150 dollar kit will be good enough, i have talk to some dealers and they all give me that bull **** we dont do that? has anyone done it or what .

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Ya man there are tons of posts on that. Im assuming you got a KC 4x2 XE? I have the same. Its really easy so i've heard. i havent installed it yet, but im planning on doing so shortly.
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I've put PW in my Titan. Easy install, about 2 hours. The kit I used was this:
http://a1electric.com/Merchant2/merc...Code=3300-0030
and I ordered a set of switch kits from the same site. I chose the illuminated switches:
http://www.a1electric.com/Merchant2/...Category_Code=

Get some power door locks while you're at it.
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What about finding a poor wrecked Titan in the junk yard and grab what you need?
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About a week ago I had SPAL power windows installed on my '05, with the lighted switches (2 on driver's side...1 on passenger side). If you are mechanically inclined, you can save yourself a bunch of money. The cost of the parts was less than $150, but three hours worth of labor involved in installing the kit raised the price to about $475. I am very happy with the SPAL kit (make sure you get the heavy duty kit), and would recommend it.

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What about finding a poor wrecked Titan in the junk yard and grab what you need?
I believe you will need a new wire harness too (the one in under the dash and the ones in the doors). Also I don't think the BCM is configured on a 4x2 KC for power.
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thanks, i will probably get them, and now have to find someone to install them i dont know anyting abouth cars.
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Its actually not hard at all. Read the how-to's online... Its really simple actually. Just dont get intimidated. thats what usually scares people off. Its super easy. and what can you lose? if you cant install in the end by yourself, you can have an installer finish the job. Either way you can only gain from installing yourself. That money can be used for a whole bunch of other awesome things. like a volant.
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What abouth the wiring is that diffucult?
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I recommend a "search" there are tons of info on it. I did it and you can find some pictures on the link in my signature. Some lock and window pictures are on the second page of the link.
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I've put PW in my Titan. Easy install, about 2 hours. The kit I used was this:
http://a1electric.com/Merchant2/merc...Code=3300-0030
and I ordered a set of switch kits from the same site. I chose the illuminated switches:
http://www.a1electric.com/Merchant2/...Category_Code=

Get some power door locks while you're at it.
Regarding the switches, are they auto-up, auto-down??

I bought the OEM switches in hopes of using them with an aftermarket power window kit like this one from SPAL.
No luck! The voltage output is on the relay level, it would require a BCM from an SE trim level to spit any voltage out to the motors. The switches are more like a circuit board underneath with no accessible place to jump to with your own wires.

I'm sure there is a way to hack the OEM switches to work, but I have NOOO idea how to go about doing that.
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Regarding the switches, are they auto-up, auto-down??

I bought the OEM switches in hopes of using them with an aftermarket power window kit like this one from SPAL.
No luck! The voltage output is on the relay level, it would require a BCM from an SE trim level to spit any voltage out to the motors. The switches are more like a circuit board underneath with no accessible place to jump to with your own wires.

I'm sure there is a way to hack the OEM switches to work, but I have NOOO idea how to go about doing that.
The switches are not auto-up/down. I would've liked to see something like that in the aftermarket also.
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Old 05-26-2005, 10:05 AM   #13 (permalink)
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If these kits are sort of "Generic" then I cas see why they don't have auto up/down.

That would entail enough engineering to ensure safety that it would no longer be a Generic Kit.

Here, the person opening the window provides the "brains" in the safety circuit.
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There is a load limiter that cuts current after the limit of the "wind" has been reached.
For example, you can lower your window half way without engaging the "auto down" feature, then click the switch all the way down to engage the "auto down." It will go all the way down, providing current to the motor for up to 1.0 seconds after the window has reached its lowest position.

I have to think there is something aftermarket that has this simple feature.

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I really need to install these power windows... haha
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