remote start help101 needed please - Page 2

f00dstamps · 12-26-2005, 03:18 PM

just ground the neutral safety switch. normally, it should be connected to the wire that shows ground whenever the shifter is in Park but most modern vehicles have this feature built in.

loudtitan · 12-26-2005, 03:20 PM

tryed that. grounded to the frame temporarly but still didn't work. do i need to ground to that wire? where is the switch?

chrismulkey25 · 12-26-2005, 08:45 PM

If all the dash lights come on but no start, make sure that the bypass module (Transponder Part #: 556U or 555U) is installed correctly and working, make sure you have the extra key installed. As for the programming of the alarm just set the neutral safety switch to (-) and ground it to the frame. All the alarm will do before it starts is make sure theres a negitive ground, (and there will be when you ground it), then the truck will start. I can't get a wiring diagram for your remote start model "Valet 561r" off of directeds website, if you can scan yours and let me see it I can help you through this.

loudtitan · 12-27-2005, 06:44 AM

shouldn't need a bypass module. truck doesn't have the imobilizer, atleast the light on the dash doesn't light up.

Clint · 12-27-2005, 07:43 AM

Which model trim level is your truck, XE, SE, or LE? Just to save time, if your truck is SE or LE, Have you tried placing a key against the ignition switch and tried to start with the remote? Maybe the truck does have the immobilizer and you're not aware of it. I still believe you will get this working and not need a shop to do it.

Clint

loudtitan · 12-27-2005, 08:13 AM

xe trim level. in the wiring list on previous posts it lists a second starter wire, does this need to be hooked to something?

f00dstamps · 12-27-2005, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by loudtitan

xe trim level. in the wiring list on previous posts it lists a second starter wire, does this need to be hooked to something?

you are right that you don't have an immobilizer because your trim level is an XE.

yes, the 2nd starter wire needs to be hooked up. it should be done so using a standard 30A automotive relay. it will have numbers for the contacts and it should be wired up as such:

30 = +12V (constant) from ignition harness
85 = +12V from 1st starter wire
86 = ground
87 = connect to 2nd starter wire
87a = no connect

loudtitan · 12-27-2005, 08:29 AM

will try this. if it works i'm naming my second child FOOdstamps

Nestor · 12-27-2005, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by loudtitan

where is the neutral safety switch. my remote start says to hook a wire up to it. i can't find it i need help. lights on dash come on and then go off

Does the r/s turn over the engine? If so, then the neutral safety wire isn't the problem, and you can look elsewhere. If it doesn't, check the manual for a configuration setting. If it is currently configured for a +12v and you are grounding it, the r/s will always think the shifter is out of neutral, and it won't turn over.

To confirm if you need a transponder bypass, pull off the vinyl fascia surrounding the ignition switch (if you hadn't already done so) and look for a black plastic housing surrounding the ignition switch. (see pic below) If so, you have the antitheft system and will need a transponder bypass. The loops of wire you see around the transponder is part of my bypass device.

loudtitan · 12-27-2005, 10:34 AM

i do confirm mine does not have the anti theft. i did ground the neutral safety wire to the frame. the motor does not turn over but the relays under the hood can be heard as well as the ones in the remote start and the dash lights blink. the error code given by the unit is -/+. but the manual does not give an explanation of what that is.

f00dstamps · 12-27-2005, 10:36 AM

try "learning the tach" feature in the manual. it might not help but worth a try.

loudtitan · 12-27-2005, 10:38 AM

first thing i did after i thought i had i hooked up was the tach learn.

Clint · 12-27-2005, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by loudtitan

i do confirm mine does not have the anti theft. i did ground the neutral safety wire to the frame. the motor does not turn over but the relays under the hood can be heard as well as the ones in the remote start and the dash lights blink. the error code given by the unit is -/+. but the manual does not give an explanation of what that is.

Do you need to set the neutral switch setting to negative?
If the starter motor won't spin, maybe this could be the reason.

Clint

Nestor · 12-27-2005, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by f00dstamps

you are right that you don't have an immobilizer because your trim level is an XE.

yes, the 2nd starter wire needs to be hooked up. it should be done so using a standard 30A automotive relay. it will have numbers for the contacts and it should be wired up as such:

30 = +12V (constant) from ignition harness
85 = +12V from 1st starter wire
86 = ground
87 = connect to 2nd starter wire
87a = no connect

2nd start wire isn't necessary. Neither is the relay. It's used with memory seats, which the XE doesn't have. I have an SE and never used the wire. Works fine.

Here's the wires I used

f00dstamps · 12-27-2005, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Nestor

2nd start wire isn't necessary. Neither is the relay. It's used with memory seats, which the XE doesn't have. I have an SE and never used the wire. Works fine.

Here's the wires I used

why would a starter wire be associated with memory seats? i was under the impression that 2nd starter wires are actually for "cold start" conditions. there is a potential that the vehicle won't start when the temperatures are cold if the 2nd starter wire isn't hooked up.