I can see you now, [SIZE=4]"It's, it's Alive."[/SIZE] like the mad scientist
seriously let us know what you find out
Yeah, it's not like I'd go out and buy an anemometer just to test flow differentials.......but, since I already have one that I use for work, figured what the hek. Mama always taught me to share!!
Just heard from socalmotorsports.....looks like the volant will be here by this weekend. So hopefully, I'll have time to install, then do flow tests with the volant after ecu reset and couple days of drivin the poo poo out of it! Then I'll post results from all 3 intake/filter setups. I'll be really surprised if the volant doesn't show an increase in flow over the K&N drop-in.
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'04 Smoke XE CC, 4X4 w/ Preferred Package. Born on 9/16/04
Performance Mods:
aFe Magnum Force Stage II Intake
Flowmaster/Borla XS American Thunder *Hybrid* Exhaust System w/ MF dual tips
Rear Cat Delete--Replaced w/ Dynomax Bullet Resos
Mobile One everywhere except tranny
Airaid TB Spacer
TB Coolant Shut-Off
Active Tuning Grounding Kit Int/Ext Mods:
SE Pwr Mirror Upgrade
Factory Step Rails
17" OR Wheels
SE Sunvisors Upgrade
20% Window Tint
Yeah, it's not like I'd go out and buy an anemometer just to test flow differentials.......but, since I already have one that I use for work, figured what the hek. Mama always taught me to share!!
Just heard from socalmotorsports.....looks like the volant will be here by this weekend. So hopefully, I'll have time to install, then do flow tests with the volant after ecu reset and couple days of drivin the poo poo out of it! Then I'll post results from all 3 intake/filter setups. I'll be really surprised if the volant doesn't show an increase in flow over the K&N drop-in.
I think it's great, all the scientific, real proof comparison test such as you using your anemometer, our accelerometers and the dynos, ect. It's educational for others and proof that these mods help or hurt in different areas.
Just like when I originally posted my 0 to 60 times averaging out at around in the mid 6's and I got flamed. There's no way a 4wd that weighs over 5000lbs can do that with our engines rated at 305crank HP and 379 torque,ect. Then TruckTrend lowers the Titans 0 to 60 to 6.7 and my results suddenly don't seem so far fetched anymore considering my dyno results w/ the exhaust mod before the Volant. About 400 torque and 340 at the crank. You have seen JT's dyno at almost 300 rwhp(370 at crank) with the same mods as me. Man I'm telling you the Volant or air intake and a good exhaust makes a difference with the Endurance that not only you can feel but shows up at the dyno and the track. The Heads into the hi 14's without NOS so I believe my accelerometer is on to something. I don't see too many people comming on flamming anymore at these claims since myself, you, Jet Tech , Head, Z and others have taken the time and given EVIDENCE substantiating our claims. Granted I've been dying to go the the track to confirm my 1/4 and the weekend I get a chance it shuts down for the season.
Once again in the interest of seeing what the Volant mod did I'll be dynoing hopefully this SAT. Some w/ the Volant and exhaust have what I had before the addition of the Volant so I think I'll be close to Jet Tech hopefully and be in the 360 to 370 crank HP and above 450 torque with the same mods. Then again maybe not, we shall see. Keep up the good work and thanks for taking the time testing.
Mike
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2004 TiTan King Cab 4x4 SE Silver
Big Tow, Off Road Package, Utility Package
Rockford Fosgate
Volant CAI W/ Air Scoop
Borla/Gibson Hybrid Dual Exhaust
Putco Liquid Grill
Cordura Seat Covers
Husky Floor Liners
MB Gunner 6 Gloss Black 20's
Yokohama Parada Spec-X 275/55R/20
275.86 rwhp
341.59 rwtq
1/8 In 9.498 @ 72.06
1/4 In 14.934 @ 90.53
2 Degree Advance
New dyno and track times since new mods to come...
Last edited by Finnattic : 12-15-2004 at 07:27 PM.
I think it's great, all the scientific, real proof comparison test such as you using your anemometer, our accelerometers and the dynos, ect. It's educational for others and proof that these mods help or hurt in different areas.
Just like when I originally posted my 0 to 60 times averaging out at around in the mid 6's and I got flamed. There's no way a 4wd that weighs over 5000lbs can do that with our engines rated at 305crank HP and 379 torque,ect. Then TruckTrend lowers the Titans 0 to 60 to 6.7 and my results suddenly don't seem so far fetched anymore considering my dyno results w/ the exhaust mod before the Volant. About 400 torque and 340 at the crank. You have seen JT's dyno at almost 300 rwhp(370 at crank) with the same mods as me. Man I'm telling you the Volant or air intake and a good exhaust makes a difference with the Endurance that not only you can feel but shows up at the dyno and the track. The Heads into the hi 14's without NOS so I believe my accelerometer is on to something. I don't see too many people comming on flamming anymore at these claims since myself, you, Jet Tech , Head, Z and others have taken the time and given EVIDENCE substantiating our claims. Granted I've been dying to go the the track to confirm my 1/4 and the weekend I get a chance it shuts down for the season.
Once again in the interest of seeing what the Volant mod did I'll be dynoing hopefully this SAT. Some w/ the Volant and exhaust have what I had before the addition of the Volant so I think I'll be close to Jet Tech hopefully and be in the 360 to 370 crank HP and above 450 torque with the same mods. Then again maybe not, we shall see. Keep up the good work and thanks for taking the time testing.
Mike
What's funny is that even with real world testing, some people still don't believe the results. I just try to have the attitude that I'm doing this for myself and those that do care......and I have no problem sharing the results, good, bad or whatever, even if it means getting flamed by the "I told you so's" of the world. I think members are more likely to believe results from a fellow member over the obviously over-inflated results from an aftermarket manufacturer whose only interest is in selling the crap out of their product.
Can't wait to see your dyno results from the Volant!
One of the things I can monitor on the CANscan is the airflow at the meter. I was also going to look at the flow of the stock air filter vs. the K&N drop-in (I have the inner tube cut out of my box) and then hopefully do the Volant.
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1/4 - 12.23@115.8 with the 06 Forester
One of the things I can monitor on the CANscan is the airflow at the meter. I was also going to look at the flow of the stock air filter vs. the K&N drop-in (I have the inner tube cut out of my box) and then hopefully do the Volant.
That'd be great to see more than one comparison. I've tested with the K&N and the stock filter, both with the airbox mod. I have no data on either filter with unmodified stock box, though.
I wonder if it will actually give you the air mass, or density since this is what a hot-wire type MAF does, and then calculates that to cfm? Just curious how the MAF calculates airflow without reading velocity or cfm directly. Will a standard OBDII scanner display airflow data?
I made it to the dyno finally, before the Volant with the Gibson Extreme was 271.29 rwhp and 316.93 torque.
With the addition of the Volant I got a best of 279.70 rwhp and 339.01 torque. That's 8.41 more HP and 22.8 more torque. The engine was already pretty hot during these runs. Pretty much jumped right on dyno after I arrived. I had to travel on highway about 30 miles. Temp today was a little warmer than last time at 73 degrees with very low humidity at 15%. I'll post sheet as soon as I get my scanner working.
With 20% drive line loss were looking at a best of about 350 bhp and 425 torque. That's 45 more horses and 46 more torque w/ intake and exhaust.
I can't wait for a tuner programmer.
Last edited by Finnattic : 12-17-2004 at 07:09 PM.
I made it to the dyno finally, before the Volant with the Gibson Extreme was 271.29 rwhp and 316.93 torque.
With the addition of the Volant I got a best of 279.70 rwhp and 339.01 torque. That's 9 more HP and 22 more torque. The engine was already pretty hot during these runs. Pretty much jumped right on dyno after I arrived. I had to travel on highway about 30 miles. Temp today was a little warmer than last time at 73 degrees with very low humidity at 15%. I'll post sheet as soon as I get my scanner working.
With 20% drive line loss were looking at a best of about 350 bhp and 425 torque. That's 45 more horses and 46 more torque w/ intake and exhaust.
I can't wait for a tuner programmer.
Mike, can you post the graph for us? I would like to see the area under the curve (more important to me than peak numbers).
12-15-2004, 05:46 PM
So hopefully, I'll have time to install, then do flow tests with the volant after ecu reset and couple days of drivin the poo poo out of it! Then I'll post results from all 3 intake/filter setups. I'll be really surprised if the volant doesn't show an increase in flow over the K&N drop-in.
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