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Old 12-23-2004, 11:05 PM   #16 (permalink)
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here's one to.

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Well its on going tests with all the clubs especially maxima.org. Also I have been in the racing industry for over 15 years. I have learned a lot about oils and many car related products. Royal Purple is not what they make it out to believe. TRUST ME. And the test below proves that.

And here is more info about Royal Purple, THE TRUTH.

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As you may know, RP is big in racing circles. The chemistry they use is something we choose not to use. One of our big selling points is extended drain intervals. Some additive chemicals can cause adverse conditions when used for long periods.

Royal Purple uses a different chemistry than most. They are one of only a handful of marketers using Moly in their oil. Moly is a solid, specifically banned by Cummins, due to excessive valve train wear.

Moly (Molybdenum Disulfide) is a processed mineral that is similar in appearance to graphite. Moly has good lubricating properties when used either by itself (in dry power form or as an additive to oil or other lubricants). Particles of the Moly can come out of suspension and agglomerate. This can actually clog oil filters or oil lines and the rest normally settles in the bottom of the oil pan. This seems to be more likely when using extended drain intervals. The only test we ran on RP involved their 20W50 Racing oil versus our AMSOIL Series 2000 Synthetic 20W50 Racing Oil (TRO). We ran two 4 ball wear tests with different parameters, a spectrographic baseline, FTIR scan and volatility tests. The Royal Purple showed a significantly high volatility rate with a 12.51% boil off rate. This compares to TRO with a 4.47% volatility rating. Wear scars were also smaller with the TRO. For example the TRO left a .41mm scar and the RP oil left a .66mm scar. There was also a surprising difference in the viscosity index. The RP has a VI of 129 versus 155 for the TRO. The higher the VI, the better the viscosity stays in place at high temperatures.

This infomation was profided by AMSOIL Tech Department. They had an independent lab test Royal Purple against AMSOIL. The results are posted above. They have found Moly in Royal Purple. As stated above, this can have negitive effects on your engine.

AMSOIL has been dyno tested against Royal Purple, in a issue of Fast Fours & Rotaries magazine. Click here to see the results.

http://www.performancemotoroil.com/Dyno_test

Give me something that doesn't come from AMSOIL.
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Old 12-23-2004, 11:13 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Give me something that doesn't come from AMSOIL.
If you read the actual tests, it didn't actually come from AMSOIL. But the results don't lie.
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Old 12-23-2004, 11:15 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Ok it's my turn...

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It took graduation from the "School Of Hard Knocks" (Marine Corps), with an associates in "Combat Vet" from Fallujia University to open the door to my dream job.
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Oil Wars thread.
I believe the first shots have been fired...
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It took graduation from the "School Of Hard Knocks" (Marine Corps), with an associates in "Combat Vet" from Fallujia University to open the door to my dream job.
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Old 12-23-2004, 11:24 PM   #22 (permalink)
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What does bobistheoilguy have to say about this?
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It took graduation from the "School Of Hard Knocks" (Marine Corps), with an associates in "Combat Vet" from Fallujia University to open the door to my dream job.
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Old 12-23-2004, 11:32 PM   #25 (permalink)
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What does bobistheoilguy have to say about this?
I was about to post that link..

RP doesn't have good results from the people who actually know over there.
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This sounds like a job for[SIZE=7]bobistheoilguy[/SIZE]
We could go back and forth all morning. Here's a report frombobistheoilguy

http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/...;f=11;t=000025
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It took graduation from the "School Of Hard Knocks" (Marine Corps), with an associates in "Combat Vet" from Fallujia University to open the door to my dream job.
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275.86 rwhp
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1/8 In 9.498 @ 72.06
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http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/...;f=11;t=000025
Well, for the last hour I have been reading a lot of new posts, 2004 year about Royal Purple. And they are not good. That was back in 2002, and that was a test from new virgin oil out of the bottle. Not after it has been used.

Like it has been said before. RP is good for racing purposes mostly. It is good for high rev, high temps, and short term use. It doesn;t have the additives to clean and lube your engine over time of stop n go driving, etc. Amsoil, Mobil 1, Redline are the best oils in the industry for this.

Finnatic, I suppose you don't get paid by RP do you? You seem to be pushing them so hard like you do, when there are so many other tests out there that prove RP is not that great as the other oils I mentioned.
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Well, for the last hour I have been reading a lot of new posts, 2004 year about Royal Purple. And they are not good. That was back in 2002, and that was a test from new virgin oil out of the bottle. Not after it has been used.

Like it has been said before. RP is good for racing purposes mostly. It is good for high rev, high temps, and short term use. It doesn;t have the additives to clean and lube your engine over time of stop n go driving, etc. Amsoil, Mobil 1, Redline are the best oils in the industry for this.

Finnatic, I suppose you don't get paid by RP do you? You seem to be pushing them so hard like you do, when there are so many other tests out there that prove RP is not that great as the other oils I mentioned.
I'm sure I'll find more info and so will you to repudiate one another.

The non-racing oil has been shown to increase performance and run cooler than ALL the others. I don't care about how a oil breaks down in 10,000 miles.

I'm not gonna wait that long to change my oil. From what I have seen RP OUTPERFORMS others in a normal life expectancy. My teller of truth is the dyno not the lab.


Anyways thanks for the lively debate, I'm going shopping at 2 in the morning now to avoid me some crowd.
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It took graduation from the "School Of Hard Knocks" (Marine Corps), with an associates in "Combat Vet" from Fallujia University to open the door to my dream job.
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Who knows what really caused the horsepower increase? Was it the royal purple, the engine ice he added. No way to really tell. Advertisement at it's best again.
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I'm sure I'll find more info and so will you to repudiate one another.

The non-racing oil has been shown to increase performance and run cooler than ALL the others. I don't care about how a oil breaks down in 10,000 miles.

I'm not gonna wait that long to change my oil. From what I have seen RP OUTPERFORMS others in a normal life expectancy. My teller of truth is the dyno not the lab.


Anyways thanks for the lively debate, I'm going shopping at 2 in the morning now to avoid me some crowd.
It out performs the others in normal life expectancy? Sorry but if you believe a dyno, you would believe the tornado device actually gains HP. LOL

At this current time, Amsoil and Redline are the market leaders in oil. At 6k of miles, they show less wear than RP would show or any other oil.

Lab testing is the REAL TRUTH. Unless all you care about is your HP, not how your engine wears and lasts overtime.
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