electric supercharger - Page 2

SeanTitan · 03-12-2005, 05:43 PM

You can get some resistors on ebay or maybe a plastis box with 4 wires. Better yet I can take some computer cooling fans and say that they swirl the air charge for better fuel burn to make more power!

Bayou Titan - thanks for the Tabasco Link now that I see I can buy it by the gallon life is good. Let me know if you ever tried the garlic one. I have not seen that one around here yet.

jeepinfun · 03-14-2005, 08:07 AM

gotta love that junk

FLA-Titan · 03-14-2005, 11:08 AM

Cmon fellas, don't you know that this thing works! The best part is after you go 4-wheeling you can dry your hair before going home!

RockyMtnTitan · 03-14-2005, 11:49 AM

Here's one that is serious, although only kicks in under WOT for 15 sec before requiring recharging (about 1 hr). I read about it at autospeed.com. Uses an Eaton twin rotor design with three electric motors totaling 18hp. Requires dedicated batteries, thus no taxing of the motor...no parasitic losses. Capable of 20 psi boost. It's about $2000, but would be at least give you at least the performance from NOS, w/o having to constantly refill your bottles. It's made by boostheads.com.

Personally, I'll save my money for a Stillen or Nismo real SC.

falchulk · 03-14-2005, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyMtnTitan

Here's one that is serious, although only kicks in under WOT for 15 sec before requiring recharging (about 1 hr). I read about it at autospeed.com. Uses an Eaton twin rotor design with three electric motors totaling 18hp. Requires dedicated batteries, thus no taxing of the motor...no parasitic losses. Capable of 20 psi boost. It's about $2000, but would be at least give you at least the performance from NOS, w/o having to constantly refill your bottles. It's made by boostheads.com.

Personally, I'll save my money for a Stillen or Nismo real SC.

It does not work, not even for a 4cylinder engine. Its not just the PSI that a blower can generate that matters. Its how much PSI it can generate on top of what the engine already requires and how fast. That tiny thing could not produce the CFM to provide even 4cylinder with 16 or 20 pounds of boost. The motor would have to be huge, the cables going to it a few inces in diameter. Care to guess how much weight a blower like this would add to your vehicle? Ok, now think of one that has to supply that kind of cfm to a 8 cylinder. Even a big air compressor cant produce enough cfm at 20 psi to make a diffrence.

RockyMtnTitan · 03-15-2005, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by falchulk

It does not work, not even for a 4cylinder engine. Its not just the PSI that a blower can generate that matters. Its how much PSI it can generate on top of what the engine already requires and how fast. That tiny thing could not produce the CFM to provide even 4cylinder with 16 or 20 pounds of boost. The motor would have to be huge, the cables going to it a few inces in diameter. Care to guess how much weight a blower like this would add to your vehicle? Ok, now think of one that has to supply that kind of cfm to a 8 cylinder. Even a big air compressor cant produce enough cfm at 20 psi to make a diffrence.

First off, I won't debate you on this.....I'll simply point out some facts, and leave the rest to you and you can take it or leave it.

Like I said...this is a serious SC, it's not a fractional hp bilge pump fan or leaf blower motor. 18 hp IS serious power. It takes hp to make hp when your talking SC's and even TC's. This system draws between 600 and 1200 amps. So, if you do the math, that equals 9.6 hp and 19.3 hp, respectively. This is why it requires it's own battery bank. You could never run an electric SC of your alternator...no matter what size. This sytem is rated at over 400 cfm at 5.5 psi boost. Keep in mind this is not recommended for anything over 2.5 liters, and was never suggested as a serious contender against a motor/exhaust-driven SC/TC for the Titan, although you could still probabaly realize at least a couple pounds of boost on a V8. I'm just making comparisons against the junk e-sc's that are out there.

As far as the weight issue, it's really not. By using lightweight competition batteries (13lbs ea) and the weight of the ESC, itself (17-19lbs) it will weigh equal or less than a full TC or SC kit (70-90lbs).

The builder, Thomas Knight, has been around turbos since the late 70's when he worked for Turbo Tech, an FAA turbo repair facility.

Here's a link to turbomagazine's article on this ESC. Check it out and see what it did for their Altima. Basically, it took it from 105whp to 184whp, and took the 1/4 mi time from 18's to 15.58 sec with 5.5 boost.

www.turbomagazine.com/tech/0406tur_knight/

falchulk · 03-15-2005, 12:39 PM

Did you read the output of this?

"Dyno: There's no doubt the unit delivers the goods. The Nissan Altima baselined at a measly 115 whp. At 5 psi, the ESC pushed output to 177 whp, and at 8 psi peak power jumped to 208 whp. At some points in the power curve, the ESC generated a 100-percent gain in power. Torque also dramatically increased. So 208 at the tires pushes this sedate Altima to a new level. Remember: it's an automatic.".

So you think this thing can push enough to put 100hp at the wheels? Heres something that was not mentioned, if the motors draw a combined 1200 amps, thats 400amps per motor. The windings in the motors alone would be larger then the case shown. I dont buy it.

Bayou Titan · 03-15-2005, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanTitan

Bayou Titan - thanks for the Tabasco Link now that I see I can buy it by the gallon life is good. Let me know if you ever tried the garlic one. I have not seen that one around here yet.

I've tried everything they make. The garlic is good. Last year my wife, me, and my Titan went to the plant and the country store. You can taste test everything for free. They even have pepper flavored soft serve ice cream! The chipotle sauce is the best.

Tabasco just opened a store in the French Quarter in New Orleans if you happen to be down that way.

RockyMtnTitan · 03-15-2005, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bayou Titan

I've tried everything they make. The garlic is good. Last year my wife, me, and my Titan went to the plant and the country store. You can taste test everything for free. They even have pepper flavored soft serve ice cream! The chipotle sauce is the best.

Tabasco just opened a store in the French Quarter in New Orleans if you happen to be down that way.

My vote goes to the Chipotle sauce

.....I use that stuff on everything.....except ice cream.

stick · 03-15-2005, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyMtnTitan

Here's one that is serious, although only kicks in under WOT for 15 sec before requiring recharging (about 1 hr). I read about it at autospeed.com. Uses an Eaton twin rotor design with three electric motors totaling 18hp. Requires dedicated batteries, thus no taxing of the motor...no parasitic losses. Capable of 20 psi boost. It's about $2000, but would be at least give you at least the performance from NOS, w/o having to constantly refill your bottles. It's made by boostheads.com.

Personally, I'll save my money for a Stillen or Nismo real SC.

hey...isn't that the bomb that bruce willis tried to deactivate in die hard 1....or was it 2....hmmmm.

RockyMtnTitan · 03-16-2005, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by stick

hey...isn't that the bomb that bruce willis tried to deactivate in die hard 1....or was it 2....hmmmm.

Crap, man...you're on to me now!! I was hoping no one would figure that out!