Installed Volant...here's what I think

PENROSE · 05-29-2005, 12:17 PM

1) This thing is LOUD. If you are at 1/2 throttle or higher...get ready for LOUD. A little TOO loud for my taste. Probably MUCH too loud for others tastes. And to others, probably music to their ears.

2) The install was VERY easy. Although there were no install instructions. Everything lined up/fit PERFECTLY. The only hard part was fitting the filter onto the duct (tube) itself. It took a bit of wiggling/struggling.

3)I don't notice any performance gains. None. It SOUNDS like there is a performance gain. But I don't FEEL anything. I did unhook my battery for 4 hours after install, but my computer will probably need more time to "learn"

4) This sucker is LOUD...did I already mention that?

5)Due to an EXTREEEEEEMLY annoying buzz/vibration/rattle in the cab, I had to jam a thick piece of cardboard in between my dash and the pillar that seperates the windshield and the drivers window. Problem solved but looks very ghetto. Will figure something else out for that later.

6) Freakin' LOUD

7) Going back to stock intake box is an option. But I am not giving up on Volant box yet. I think I may like it. I think...maybe? Yes, I dunno yet. Only had it for 1 day.

NOW....I am still running with my stock exhaust. But this weekend Flowmaster with big new "y"pipe and 2 1/2" duals will be installed. Should I notice any difference in sound and/or performance after this exhaust is complete????? I am thinking that this new intake is sucking in so much air that my stock exhaust can't handle it. Will the new exhaust help?

37L1 · 05-29-2005, 12:22 PM

Don't know about LOUD? I never notice mine unless I'm really on the gas, then what's LOUD, when you have the Banks Monster?

No vibration on mine either, either I can't hear (not) or I've been lucky and you aren't.

Have you done the dash mount bolt tightening fix Jet Tech advised of? They are right there at the pillar and dash on the driver's side.

*tortuga* · 05-29-2005, 12:23 PM

from what i've read/heared from the resident experts, the computer registers the changes and adjust timing by retarding ignition and thus no performance gains are felt from either an intake/exhaust modification... just what i've read!!! something to seriously consider... exhaust mod is something i'm gonna do just cause i love the sound of the banks!

37L1 · 05-29-2005, 12:25 PM

tort,

I think that's horse hockey because if that were the case no add ons would improve performance, ever. So why have we seen lowered times in the 1/4 and improvements in the dyno numbers?????

*tortuga* · 05-29-2005, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 37L1

tort,

I think that's horse hockey because if that were the case no add ons would improve performance, ever. So why have we seen lowered times in the 1/4 and improvements in the dyno numbers?????

hehe

horse hockey???

HellOne, i read it in one of the millions of threads that at first there would be a difference then the comp. would compensate for the airflow increase... its hard to determine what's true and what's not anymore. all i know is i want a banks!!!

juma · 05-29-2005, 01:08 PM

In some mods like new free flowing exhaust, intake, fuel pressure adjustment, there is a component of the improvement that is due to a leaner gas/air mixture. This is what is adjusted back out pretty quickly. the load on the engine from sucking in air through a small hole or blowing it out through a small hole that is reduced when you enlarge the intake/exhaust, stays with you and is permanent increase in available rear wheel power.

Mainly this increase is a result of subtracting low end power and moving it up to a higher rpm. we don't notice the 20 horsepower off the bottom because its so truck strong.

Mods that lighten the moving metal like driveshaft and wheels or the body are very productive across the whole power band.

juma

PENROSE · 05-29-2005, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by juma

In some mods like new free flowing exhaust, intake, fuel pressure adjustment, there is a component of the improvement that is due to a leaner gas/air mixture. This is what is adjusted back out pretty quickly. the load on the engine from sucking in air through a small hole or blowing it out through a small hole that is reduced when you enlarge the intake/exhaust, stays with you and is permanent increase in available rear wheel power.

Mainly this increase is a result of subtracting low end power and moving it up to a higher rpm. we don't notice the 20 horsepower off the bottom because its so truck strong.

Mods that lighten the moving metal like driveshaft and wheels or the body are very productive across the whole power band.

juma

So you are saying that I spent $300 on a sub-woofing noisemaker that takes away from my low end torque???

GREAT!!!

PENROSE · 05-29-2005, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by juma

we don't notice the 20 horsepower off the bottom because its so truck strong.

juma

.......what does "truck strong" mean?

And 37L1....I would like to know more about this dash bolt tightening mod.

37L1 · 05-29-2005, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by PENROSE

.......what does "truck strong" mean?

And 37L1....I would like to know more about this dash bolt tightening mod.

PENROSE:

Here you go:

Loose Dash Bolts! Check Yours!

PENROSE · 05-29-2005, 11:55 PM

I will try the dash bolt mod. Thanks.

**gr8titan** · 05-30-2005, 09:29 AM

Generally speaking, air intake mods works best when coupled with an improved exhaust system.

Analogy wise: If the intake (food) is increased, there's an expected relative increase in output (p00p). If one or the other aren't matched up properly there will be some unwanted complications somewhere.

Have fun and be safe!

**goathead** · 05-30-2005, 10:01 AM

too much intake and not enough exhaust === full of sh!t

redrocket450 · 05-30-2005, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by gr8titan

Generally speaking, air intake mods works best when coupled with an improved exhaust system.

Analogy wise: If the intake (food) is increased, there's an expected relative increase in output (p00p). If one or the other aren't matched up properly there will be some unwanted complications somewhere.

Have fun and be safe!

I have to agree ....I just put the AEM intake on and I get a lot of sucking noise and whistling,and I still have the stock exhaust...At the same time I put the same kit on a truck with the flowmaster 70 series and the intake performs allot better.It seems with the stock exhuast there is still allot of back pressure which keeps the increased air flow restricted. In the mean time I am waiting onn my Banks Exhaust kit to show up.This should make the whole system less restrictive.

**gr8titan** · 05-30-2005, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by goathead

too much intake and not enough exhaust === full of sh!t

TRUE!!

If there is an increase of combustible air (02) added to fuel in any pre-determined combustion chamber, there is a relative increased combustion by-products. (this is a fact of Physics). Additionally, if the exhaust (low combustible gas) products are evacuated from the exhaust system faster, then the benefits of the improved air intake flow is neither compromised nor degraded.

Also remember that there is a slight "overlap" of the intake and exhaust valves opening during a single combustion cycle and less pressure at the exhaust side during this time is a benefit.

That is why "Banks" sell their Diesel kits in "stages" where the MAX HP and Torque gains are achieved with the combination of Forced AI, larger diameter exhaust tubing and timing management kit.

Just trying to help

PENROSE · 05-30-2005, 07:11 PM

Interesting stuff, guys. I will wait till I get my new exhaust before I pass final judgement on the Volant intake.

After only having it on a couple days now I will say that it SEEMS that the performance has actually taken a small step BACKWARD. I don't know if this is normal, or it is quite possible that I am losing my mind (I was painting ALL DAY and paint fumes mess my head up bad)

Anyway, will the in-cab "subwoofing" effect lessen when my new exhaust is on??