GReddy Supercharger Kit - Page 5

decypher44 · 03-08-2006, 12:58 PM

Man, I wish I could afford something like this. My wife already harps on me about the cost for the intake and exhaust! But, seriously, a programmer I could buy.

And I didn't know GReddy was in OC. Your Titan sort of looks familiar. May have seen you on the freeways.

*mach1* · 03-08-2006, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by WazzuCoug

I see a lot of folks caught up on the price thing. I am more interested with performance across the powerband, and large increases than price. Guys we cant be picky when someone decides to stick their foot in the door and help us out. As we all know the options for aftermarket with our vehicles is limited.

Price is clearly an interest to them because they want to sell a lot of them, and are trying to research what poeple are willing to pay for such a product.

Large increases in performance will more than likely have you blowing head gaskets on a regular basis among other things. You have to have a good compromise.

TitanHigh · 03-08-2006, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ChadEberly

Well I have to defend stillen a bit here, when you introduce a new product foir a specific vehicle that is custom fit it takes alot of r&d (which we all know it took them alot

) So when a company first introduces a product the cost is expensive because they trying to recoup the cost of there r&D. Then after they sell a couple superchargers to a couple of power hungry fools They [b]should[b] lower prices. The only thing is i have bought alot of stuff from stillen over the years for my old 300zx and my new titan and they dont seem to ever really cut prices they always go up,so in fact you are paying a premium for r&d costs that is old, which is bad for buissness. I love stillen products but some of there stuff is too high. Anyway the cost for the greddy kit could be realatively low on the R&D sides, they already have the supercharger (rotax for 350z kit) they already have the emanage (upgrade a lil), whats left? a new pulley to designated boost specs, new belt and bracket? Whats not to say, BUILD IT!!!

First let me that Stillen is not underfire. Therefor there is nothing to defend. Stillen makes a great product I would love to have the supercharger kit they offer on my own truck. The reason i do not is because we have had many meeting when superchargers have been brought up. Not only for the Titan/ Armada but for other vehicles as well. We are looking at doing more supercharger kits to try and keep the cost down for the retail public as well as keeping our own cost down.

As far as cost of R&D, we will not and have never charged a premium to try and recover R&D cost. Yes the amount of R&D is factored in when trying to com up with a fair retail price but it is never the main thing. As far as the Rotax Supercharger for the 350z. That product belongs to HKS. Another fine company for aftermarket performance part.

EricCartmann · 03-09-2006, 09:27 PM

need to bump this back up

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JAAA JAAA
JAAA
GEEEE UNIT!

SickWhip · 03-10-2006, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by EricCartmann

need to bump this back up

JAAAA
JAAA JAAA
JAAA
GEEEE UNIT!

Any word as to if they are going forward?

P.S. It's too early here to be laughing!

baseballfanz · 03-10-2006, 05:24 PM

How many post does this thread need to get too before production began?

TitanHigh · 03-10-2006, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by baseballfanz

How many post does this thread need to get too before production began?

Trust me i am trying to puch everything through to get started. I will post any updates. I want to get started on this so bad....lol

*mach1* · 03-10-2006, 09:55 PM

do a more affordable kit, even if it has to be centrifigal

HawaiiTitan · 03-10-2006, 10:59 PM

Quality for both Stillen and Greddy is awsome. So it will come down to can you match or better Stillens performance numbers for a cheaper price and still offer a warranty. If you can warranty the kit&engine for around mid to high $4k range or better your gonna sell a crap load of kits. I don't think you guys should expect a quality kit for under $4k, this aint no carb'd 350 crate. Good luck with the kit!

TitanHigh · 03-10-2006, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by HawaiiTitan

Quality for both Stillen and Greddy is awsome. So it will come down to can you match or better Stillens performance numbers for a cheaper price and still offer a warranty. If you can warranty the kit&engine for around mid to high $4k range or better your gonna sell a crap load of kits. I don't think you guys should expect a quality kit for under $4k, this aint no carb'd 350 crate. Good luck with the kit!

There are hardly any companies offering warranties on these types of products. Reason is the costumer can tamper with the kits to create more boost there by damaging the motor. This also takes the kit out of its normal realm of operation. A warranty towards the engine, I do not know of any company that offers this. If there is I would like to know the name of that company.

Stillen, GReddy, HKS and other performance products companies take everything in to account when designing a kit. A kit is not going to be released if there is doubt that something may be wrong.

Stillen's web site says it the best, (below is a quote from there site)

“Before offering this Supercharger system for sale we put months of design, testing, dyno time and day to day driving into it. These kits have been tested over thousands of miles in all driving conditions to prove reliability.”

We as well stand by the same statement on all of our turbo kits and our new supercharger line of products.

rcantu · 03-11-2006, 12:09 AM

Stillen sells a 3year/36k miles warranty for their supercharger. It's issued by Delphi or some something like that. So it's a 3rd party warranty but it does cover the engine. I don't have a copy of it so I cannot tell you the details but I know for a fact that Stillen does offer it.

I hope that Greddy and other tuners step up though to offer their product. I'm sure they'll be competitive product as they are for other imports.

Cobalt · 03-11-2006, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mach1

Price is clearly an interest to them because they want to sell a lot of them, and are trying to research what poeple are willing to pay for such a product.

Large increases in performance will more than likely have you blowing head gaskets on a regular basis among other things. You have to have a good compromise.

Honestly I highly doubt that. Have you seen the layout of these heads? The length of the head bolts? The chances of blowing a head gasket on these heads isn't that great. You have more of a chance in having problems with the motors weak cast rods and pistons.

*mach1* · 03-11-2006, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cobalt

Honestly I highly doubt that. Have you seen the layout of these heads? The length of the head bolts? The chances of blowing a head gasket on these heads isn't that great. You have more of a chance in having problems with the motors weak cast rods and pistons.

No, i havent seen the layout, but from reading the engineering paper, where they said they used a 4.5 block, and shaved the thickness between cylinders to a rather small size, it would sound like a good place to blow a gasket.

HawaiiTitan · 03-12-2006, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TitanHigh

There are hardly any companies offering warranties on these types of products. Reason is the costumer can tamper with the kits to create more boost there by damaging the motor. This also takes the kit out of its normal realm of operation. A warranty towards the engine, I do not know of any company that offers this. If there is I would like to know the name of that company.

Stillen, GReddy, HKS and other performance products companies take everything in to account when designing a kit. A kit is not going to be released if there is doubt that something may be wrong.

Stillen's web site says it the best, (below is a quote from there site)

“Before offering this Supercharger system for sale we put months of design, testing, dyno time and day to day driving into it. These kits have been tested over thousands of miles in all driving conditions to prove reliability.”

We as well stand by the same statement on all of our turbo kits and our new supercharger line of products.

Silly me I could have sworn that Stillen warranties the engine as well since the supercharger voids the warranty on the engine.

TitanHigh · 03-13-2006, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by rcantu

Stillen sells a 3year/36k miles warranty for their supercharger. It's issued by Delphi or some something like that. So it's a 3rd party warranty but it does cover the engine. I don't have a copy of it so I cannot tell you the details but I know for a fact that Stillen does offer it.

I hope that Greddy and other tuners step up though to offer their product. I'm sure they'll be competitive product as they are for other imports.

This is correct. There are many compaines the sell third party warrintes, but that would also just rise the cost. Again we will stand behind the product 100%. But what we can not do is warranty something that has been tampered with or installed incorrectly. As for Nissan Corp. They will not warranty a motor if they find Evidence that there was an S/C kit on the vehicle, or other performance enhancing parts. I have already spoke to them about this matter.