Help W/ Timing Advance

cynic05 · 06-16-2006, 02:43 PM

Would some one please PM me or post a link that shows the instructions for the timing advance? I am going to the dealer this coming wednesday to get it done and they don't have a clue. I have done searches for it here and can't find what I'm looking for, I am stupid because I have read posts with excellent instructions I can print and give to the tech. I just can't make the search tool work for me! Thanks in advance, 2 degrees to be exact.

37L1 · 06-16-2006, 02:49 PM

Here ya go:

http://www.titantalk.com/forums/508304-post10.html

cynic05 · 06-18-2006, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 37L1

Here ya go:

http://www.titantalk.com/forums/508304-post10.html

Thank You Thank You Thank You Thank You!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TitanToy · 06-20-2006, 08:23 PM

Anyone know what dealer in the Clearwater,FL area is familiar with the 2 degree timing advance. What kinda gains could be expected? Thanx

Dr_Combustion · 06-21-2006, 04:00 AM

The UpRev site (maker of Cipher) posted a before and after dyno comparison. They found about 5-6HP increase with the 2 degree advance. I found that the off-the-line acceleration is much better with it.

Hellions · 06-21-2006, 06:38 AM

LandMan sent me a copy of a couple of his "Pre-2 Degree" logs from Cipher. He is going to do a couple after the mod to see the difference. Hopefully the ambient conditions will be close. Either he or I will post the results.

DC, I guess you didn't have enough time to pull some before and afters; I know I forgot all about it.

LANDMAN · 06-21-2006, 07:03 AM

Hey Kip,

I've got some more I will email to you and RB's Titan.

Steve

Hellions · 06-21-2006, 08:19 AM

Cool, my curiousity is killing me...

Dr_Combustion · 06-21-2006, 06:24 PM

Hellions: You are right - no time for before and after runs. I road tested the advance on my way to Texas.

04RamHemi · 06-22-2006, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 37L1

Here ya go:

http://www.titantalk.com/forums/508304-post10.html

So you would have to run higher octane gas with this, right? Do your trucks have knock sensors that would kick in and retard the timing if you use cheap gas?

baseballfanz · 06-22-2006, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 04RamHemi

So you would have to run higher octane gas with this, right? Do your trucks have knock sensors that would kick in and retard the timing if you use cheap gas?

Most people running the timing advance is using regular gas with no knocking.

AgTitan · 06-22-2006, 10:45 AM

I have a couple dumb questions...

1) How much should I expect to pay to get this performed at the dealer?

2) Is it ok to do this on a stock truck w/ only the stock airbox mod or should I wait until I get a CAI and exhaust?

Thanks for your help guys,
Justin

Hellions · 06-22-2006, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by AgTitan

I have a couple dumb questions...

1) How much should I expect to pay to get this performed at the dealer?

2) Is it ok to do this on a stock truck w/ only the stock airbox mod or should I wait until I get a CAI and exhaust?

Thanks for your help guys,
Justin

The cost is anywhere from free up to $90.00 (the highest I've seen posted on the boards). Although I now have access to the Cipher software, the mod was actually done by my local dealer for free because I just asked nice, really! Actually I did ask nice, but I was in having my radio replaced for the 4th time with under 3000 miles on the truck.

Go ahead and do the mod before you do the other mods. It won't hurt anything. You'll probably still do an ECU reset after each mod anyway.

Hope this helps.

04RamHemi · 06-22-2006, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by baseballfanz

Most people running the timing advance is using regular gas with no knocking.

That was not what I was asking. I was asking if your trucks have knock sensors that would require you to use higher octane fuel. For example, in the Dodge Ram, if you run Superchips program on the 91 octane setting, you will not get the benefit unless you use at least 91 octane fuel. If you do not, the truck's knock sensors would kick in and retard the timing and basically render the superchips useless. So my question is do you need to run higher octane fuel in your trucks. If you do not have knock sensors (which I would find hard to believe if you didn't), then you would hear the knocking. If you do have them, then you wouldn't hear them knocking, because your computer is retarding your timing and making your 2 degree timing mod useless.

Just my .02

jaho1979 · 06-22-2006, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Hellions

The cost is anywhere from free up to $90.00 (the highest I've seen posted on the boards). Although I now have access to the Cipher software, the mod was actually done by my local dealer for free because I just asked nice, really! Actually I did ask nice, but I was in having my radio replaced for the 4th time with under 3000 miles on the truck.

Go ahead and do the mod before you do the other mods. It won't hurt anything. You'll probably still do an ECU reset after each mod anyway.

Hope this helps.

I got mine done for free as well, the tech didn't care and was actually curious if it would work. I didn't have instructions with me and had to wing it, but got it right!!

It all depends on who you get messing with you truck, but I honestly wouldn't pay more than $20 for it, under the table of course. It really takes 2 minutes or less to complete, once the consult is hooked up.