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Old 03-11-2004, 08:26 AM   #1
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torque differance from the Armada and TITAN

why does the Armada have a higher torque rating? what can done to the titan to achieve the same numbers? is it ECU related or Intake/Exhaust related?


BTW we just click 12000 miles on ours, time to lay the hammer down
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sneaky, compression ratio is raised in the armada to increase torque and horsepower to COMPENSATE for the armada chunkiness. its all power to weight ratio relativity crap.
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Then it seems they must reprogram the ECU and make it run on premium for the Infiniti, 315 hp and 390 ft-lb...
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i apologize guys, seems quad t may be right. compression ratios are the same however in the infiniti qx56 it demands premium fuel only. it must be a ecu thing...
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i apologize guys, seems quad t may be right. compression ratios are the same however in the infiniti qx56 it demands premium fuel only. it must be a ecu thing...

Probably more advanced timing. At least we know there are more ponies to squeeze out of her.
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Re: torque differance from the Armada and TITAN

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sneaky, compression ratio is raised in the armada to increase torque and horsepower to COMPENSATE for the armada chunkiness. its all power to weight ratio relativity crap.

Who you callin' chunkie? lol
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Re: torque differance from the Armada and TITAN

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i apologize guys, seems quad t may be right. compression ratios are the same however in the infiniti qx56 it demands premium fuel only. it must be a ecu thing...


darnit...can I get mine fixed to want premium and work best with premium..that usually all I use anyway...
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Re: torque differance from the Armada and TITAN

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darnit...can I get mine fixed to want premium and work best with premium..that usually all I use anyway...

Why would you use premium? Our trucks run best on 87 octane.

Now, if you have changed your timing or the ECU then I understand your decision
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Re: torque differance from the Armada and TITAN

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Why would you use premium? Our trucks run best on 87 octane.

Now, if you have changed your timing or the ECU then I understand your decision


gotten this before BUT Im used to the premium just cuz my trans am, well thats all itd take and people say "ye right" BUT I PERSONALLY feel my truck actually kick with premium and not with regular...it even boggs down with regular and not with premium...it could be that the premium gas is just cleaner around here and reg is real dirty but who knows...I like it though and thats what I use so is there anyway to make my truck "run better with premium" since it "runs best on 87 octane"
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Re: torque differance from the Armada and TITAN

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gotten this before BUT Im used to the premium just cuz my trans am, well thats all itd take and people say "ye right" BUT I PERSONALLY feel my truck actually kick with premium and not with regular...it even boggs down with regular and not with premium...it could be that the premium gas is just cleaner around here and reg is real dirty but who knows...I like it though and thats what I use so is there anyway to make my truck "run better with premium" since it "runs best on 87 octane"

Yea, My Titan seems to have more snap with 89 or higher octane...i wonder if the ECU auto compensates
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Re: torque differance from the Armada and TITAN

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why does the Armada have a higher torque rating? what can done to the titan to achieve the same numbers? is it ECU related or Intake/Exhaust related?


BTW we just click 12000 miles on ours, time to lay the hammer down

This has been covered before. Consider doing a search. The difference is miniscule. So small that testing the same truck on different days accounts for that much difference. The Titan test and the Armada test were not done on the same day and probably not on the same dyno.

And besides, the exhausts from the cats back are different lengths, just the slightly different exhaust could also account for this very tiny difference.

Don't lose any sleep over this. Other than the piping after the cats, there is no difference. The engines, the drive trains and ECU are identical. Premium fuel helps both vehicles the same way.
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Re: torque differance from the Armada and TITAN

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The engines, the drive trains and ECU are identical. Premium fuel helps both vehicles the same way.

pi3year, if this is the case then I retract my previous statements.
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Re: torque differance from the Armada and TITAN

I guess you all understand that our "smart ECU" is capable of advancing timing until it detects knock. That's why you get 10 extra horses in all Endurance engines (Titan, Armada, Infiniti) when running premium fuel as compared to regular.

This too has been covered in depth elsewhere here after extensive testing.
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Re: torque differance from the Armada and TITAN

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I guess you all understand that our "smart ECU" is capable of advancing timing until it detects knock. That's why you get 10 extra horses in all Endurance engines (Titan, Armada, Infiniti) when running premium fuel as compared to regular.

This too has been covered in depth elsewhere here after extensive testing.
I posted the same thing somewhere else after a similar question was ask. Few peoples call me a B.S.er
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Re: torque differance from the Armada and TITAN

armada you never pm'd me back about this. I've waited like 2 weeks dude.

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