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Old 11-25-2005, 09:59 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Complete rearend

Has anyone said the hell with the stocker and asked someone like currie enterprises to build them a new custom rearend?
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Old 11-25-2005, 10:33 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Complete rearend

FourWheeler magazine put a Dynatrac Dana 60 in a 2WD. Nobody apparently makes gears to match the stock ratios though, so no 4x4 swap yet.

http://fourwheeler.com/projectbuild/129_0506_titan/

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Re: Complete rearend

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FourWheeler magazine put a Dynatrac Dana 60 in a 2WD. Nobody apparently makes gears to match the stock ratios though, so no 4x4 swap yet.

http://fourwheeler.com/projectbuild/129_0506_titan/
Yeah I read that Article... After I finish up the rear glass... I think I will drive down to currie and see if they can do something up for me... as I don't think it will hold up to my driving much longer
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Re: Complete rearend

I live on a loose sand road.I started noticing the "SLIP" light coming on just before the first rearend came apart. After they changed the rearend out, the light didn't come on again for a few thousand miles. Then it started coming on again. About two months later the second rearend came apart. After it was replaced the light did not come on again. With 1500 miles on this rearend the light is coming on again. I am keeping a close eye on the fluid to see if any "sparklies" start showing up. Hope this is just coincidence but I do not think so. Good luck and keep on trucking.
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Re: Complete rearend

If you have ABLS, the SLIP light is supposed to come on any time it is working. One wheel spins, the SLIP light comes on, the brake caliper clamps the rotor on the spinning wheel. Your SLIP light doesn't work like that?
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Be sure to keep us updated on what they tell you.

Both Dynatrac and Randy's Ring & Pinion are working on putting a high pinion Dana 44 in the front housing. When that happens, we'll be able to get a custom D60 rear axle from Dynatrac and new front gears to match.
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Guess on rear price?

Is anyone making a guess on the rear setup cost?Something that would be drop in-no adj or shimming so a shadetree mech could do itt if he had access to a rack?I thought I heard $5000 for just the rear?Thanks.Charlie
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Is anyone making a guess on the rear setup cost?Something that would be drop in-no adj or shimming so a shadetree mech could do itt if he had access to a rack?I thought I heard $5000 for just the rear?Thanks.Charlie
My understanding is that the rear axle would be a complete assembly with the gears already setup, perhaps with a full locker in a Dana 60. You could install that w/o rack, just with jacks, jackstands, and probably a helper. An impact wrench might be needed depending on how tight the U-bolts are. A good time to do a Deaver spring pack upgrade.

The front would be a different story (for 4x4) as you would just be buying gears, so that would get into dial indicator, lash, marking tooth contact pattern, shims, pre-load. Probably best left to a shop.
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On the bright side there should be interest from aftermarket

Bestatchess-that would be great.It would be a long day for an amateur-I don't have a rack,but I do have jackstands.
No guess on price?I like the Titan enough to bite a $3000 bullet,but maybe not a $5000 bullet.I haven't broken anthing, but just the idea that it could break and leave me in the middle of nowhere(we drive across the TX panhandle-NM,AZ-lotta middle of nowhere there) would be enough for me to consider replacing the stock unit.
On the bright side there should be lots of aftermarket interest in a Titan rear end-for obvious reasons.Thanks.Charlie
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Re: Complete rearend

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What I am saying is that when the spider gears start coming apart, the rearend starts acting like an open rearend. Once this happens, you will have only one wheel pulling. While on the loose sand this is why I think the "SLIP" light or ABLS starts coming on. It happened on both rearends.
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What I am saying is that when the spider gears start coming apart, the rearend starts acting like an open rearend. Once this happens, you will have only one wheel pulling. While on the loose sand this is why I think the "SLIP" light or ABLS starts coming on. It happened on both rearends.
O.K., I see. Others have posted about the lights coming on as a prelude to complete failure also, but we didn't understand why. Your explanation makes sense to me. The brake can be clamping the rotor, but it doesn't matter because the spiders are trashed.
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Re: Complete rearend

It will always act as an open rearend because it is. It is in no was a true limted slip. All the limited slip action is from the traction control system applying the brakes to the spinning wheel (ABDLS??). The slip light lets you know when the traction control system is activated.
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Re: Complete rearend

I REALLY don't want a sweet rear to come out. Because I want enough to break for nissan to aknowledge the problem! Alot of guys would fix it before the problem ever occured. I'd like to see Nissan PAY for us to get beefed rears, not our own pockets. Thats just not right, everyone here can say what they want, BUT how many didn't EVER at least check their rear end fluid let alone change it at low miles? Obviously those who have are worried about something that nissan engineers should be worrying about not any of us. The 4x4 shop owner here told me we shouldn't have to be touching our trucks rear ends, and he said if numbers keep hiking nissan will have to do a recall!

Also it's been beaten to death so please no comments about it's abuse or driver error... I threw my dads 87 el camino in reverse while doing 40mph forward and stomping the gas, THAT, is driver error. I meant to hit neutral to rev for a buddy. and the gear lights didn't work so I didn't know what happened til I came to a screeching hault. btw nothing broke! just so you know how much abuse it normally takes to NOT break a rear end. those were the days, my dad let my buddies use it when we were in high school and obvioulsly the burned rubber with it and he didn't care lol. He's cool as fugg I gotta remember that next time I see him lol. I accidentally caught air like in the movies during a chase with it, wifey (girlfriend at the time) saw it from behind and told me there were sparks and all when I landed lol. That was high school too... anyway, enough war stories for now. I get excited everytime I think about the good ole days.
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$400,000,000 at $2000 each.

Hawaiibasshead. Yeah,it would be nice to get a rear end that we had some faith in.I evacuated in this truck-1600 miles-and most of it was on interstates thru TX,NM,AZ-the towns are spaced fairly far apart,and at least 1/2 the driving was at night.I was aware of the diff problem before Katrina,but we had 38 reports of failure prekatrina,I would have been sweating the whole way.
I'm 54-when I was young-14-15 or so we-my brother and I -used to street drag race-informal of course-my dads 1965 Fury 3 station wagon.We would rev that sucker up in neutral and them slam it into gear-SCREECH!!-it was an automatic.How that vehicle last 150,000 miles I will never know.-I agree-rear ends should be-and usually are-absolutely idiot-kid proof.This POS isn't even grandfather proof.
The $400 million is my guess on what it would cost Nissan to do a full recall and replacement-I don't see that happening.They-Nissan-might have fixed the problem already-upgraded the spider gears,improved QC in Bangledesh or whereever they are making the gears.We won't know this until we get ZERO-or just 1 or 2 failures of 2006's-one year from now.It would be nice to know the build dates of the 2005's to know which build dates aren't "fixed",but we certainly know that all 2005's aren't "good".Charlie
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Re: Complete rearend

Just for grins:

http://www.atmoplas.com/

Also from a Fronty site:

The Xterra and Titan get the D44, Frontier gets the D44 or C200, Armada gets the R230, Pathfinder gets the R200.

Wonder if the Frontiers and Xterras are having differential problems????
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