truck died today, please help - Page 2

Brandx55 · 07-10-2009, 03:20 PM

So after reading this post I got the paper work form when I had what sounds like the same problem. Ran fine and then would not run and had rough idle.

The Dealer put this on the invoice
ACC Replaced IPDM
726 C
1 284B6-ZC00A Controller

Parts 165.50 labor 215.00

The front Service Guy told me that it was the main controller over the fuse box.

I wonder if it was the same thing.

**beason** · 07-10-2009, 03:29 PM

yes it was. and the price was ok, you got ripped for labor. ive never done it before and had it out in under 10 minutes. i hope that was covered...

its under a cover behind the battery, under the cowl.

Brandx55 · 07-10-2009, 03:37 PM

Sh[t.......... I just look at it under my hood right behing the battery. your right I wish this happened in june after you posted this.

I hope someone reads this and it saves them money when it happens to them.

**beason** · 07-10-2009, 03:40 PM

its just the way i am. i always always try to fix something myself before resorting to professional help. and when i do, i share it with anyone i can so they dont get ripped either.

the interwebs is your friend!

BNissan · 09-20-2009, 11:51 AM

Hey Beason,
Did you ever end up replacing the relay you "borrowed?" If so, where did you find another one? I just checked Courtesy Parts and I don't see a matching part listed -- only a whole new IPDM.

i switched the relays and it works!! i dont have fog lights anymore, but hey.. ill find another relay.[/quote]

baseballfanz · 09-20-2009, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BNissan

Hey Beason,
Did you ever end up replacing the relay you "borrowed?" If so, where did you find another one? I just checked Courtesy Parts and I don't see a matching part listed -- only a whole new IPDM.

i switched the relays and it works!! i dont have fog lights anymore, but hey.. ill find another relay.

Don't know why but NISSAN does NOT offer for sale the relay as an individual part. You have to get the whole IPDM.

**beason** · 09-20-2009, 01:18 PM

actually i put the "bad" relay back in to the fog light socket, turned them on, and after about 8 seconds they turned on and have been working ever since. i did find one on ebay that is very close if not the same relay just "rebadged". i havent tried it yet but it rides in the console just in case.

BNissan · 09-21-2009, 05:26 PM

Well I ended up replacing the whole IPDM, same part number that Brandx55 used. I paid $98 at the dealer parts counter. My advice to anyone with a failed IPDM -- make sure your dealer sells you the right part # (since apparently some dealers still have the old part in stock) and don't be afraid to negotiate with your parts counter salesman. Supposedly it's an upgraded part, so I feel better spending the extra money on the whole enchilada instead of just the relay.

big_b16 · 10-18-2009, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BNissan

Well I ended up replacing the whole IPDM, same part number that Brandx55 used. I paid $98 at the dealer parts counter. My advice to anyone with a failed IPDM -- make sure your dealer sells you the right part # (since apparently some dealers still have the old part in stock) and don't be afraid to negotiate with your parts counter salesman. Supposedly it's an upgraded part, so I feel better spending the extra money on the whole enchilada instead of just the relay.

What is the correct part number for the new one? I just replaced my ECM relay as per beason's troubleshooting and now my truck is running fine. My fog lamps come on after a bit of a lag. I did notice the relay for the ECM has a 5 on it and the rest have a 4 on them. What is the difference? I couldn't find it in the service manual (quick read through). 3 cheers for beason

, he saved me much time troubleshooting this. I was looking at first checking fuel pressure...glad I saw this first.

DisturbedR6 · 10-19-2009, 02:12 PM

dealer just told me thats whats wrong with mine...

the problem is they are back ordered from nissan and no idea how long it will take to get one in...

think i can call them and suggest they switch the relays? or would they not jsut incase something went wrong?

**beason** · 10-19-2009, 03:27 PM

go get it and switch it yourself. at least you will have a ride until they get more in. unless they are providing you with a loaner, and your happy with that.

DisturbedR6 · 10-20-2009, 07:39 AM

they are NOT giving me a loaner...

i might have to do that...

you said its under the battery? and which 2 do i switch?

**beason** · 10-20-2009, 08:07 AM

behind the battery in a case.

where it says "top" is actually the bottom, so flip that image 90 deg counterclockwise. ecm is the 2nd, and fog is the 4th.

nightside · 10-25-2009, 05:17 AM

2004 Titan, 65k miles.

2 months ago the truck wouldn't start, just kept turning over. Every once in a while the battery would even be dead. The needles on all the gauges would flutter for about 10 seconds. I had a 2005 Armada also that didn't start, towed it to the dealer and $500 later they put in a new IPDM. I assume I am having the same problem with the Titan. I did come up with a trick that has worked, turn the key to on, wait a few seconds, then to start. The truck will turn over for 1-3 seconds then start up. I have been doing this for 2 months now and it has started up everytime. I also noticed the my rearview mirror's compass/digital thermometer is out.

After reading all of us amateurs stumble through our similar adventures I hopped down to my local Japanese truck junkyard and bought 2 of the relays. I just swapped the relays out. When I turn directly to start it turns over 2 seconds then starts, but the gauges still flutter.

I don't know if it would have started anyway without the swap. I'll update over time.

I did find out the IPDM is on nationwide backorder from Cerritos Nissan (California), so I would recommend going to the nearest junkyard and getting a couple of the relays. I paid $25 for 2.

**beason** · 10-25-2009, 08:16 AM

mine would start, get me down a road a bit, then die. so i doubt letting it sit for 3 seconds with the key on would have helped.. you may have bigger problems..