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#1 (permalink) Old 10-30-2012, 01:24 PM
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Long Bed Lift problem

Hey guys after spending so much time trying to diagnose my vibration problem on my 2009 Pro4x with a procomp lift radflos and a 4" block, I took it to a local shop.

Well first my problem is vibration in the steering wheel and pedals at various speeds over 55mph.

I have a angle problem on the rear driveshaft, the cst drop bracket lowered the carrier bearing too much. Although they are confident they can fix that pretty easily.

They found that the front end is causing a lot of the vibration, by taking the front shaft off the vibration in the steering is almost non-existent. The u-joints on the front shaft were replaced last week, and that didn't help. They are doing some more research for me, in the meantime has anyone had to shim the front driveshaft with a pro-comp lift? I'm not sure how involved that is, and quite frankly I'm not sure it would be worth doing that or if I would just take the lift off.

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Re: Long Bed Lift problem

are the tires balanced properly?

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Re: Long Bed Lift problem

shim should be easy, the long beds look good lifted :thumbsup

I'm not sure which shim thickness you'd need with a long bed though..

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I believe the tires are good, but I will probably have them checked again this weekend.

And where would I shim for the front driveshaft? The front diff has no adjustment on the procomp bracket does it?

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Re: Long Bed Lift problem

I just had my 11 LWB lifted with the pro comp lift. The kit came with a 3" rear block. I do not like the way the truck is sitting with the cali look. I looked into using a 4" block for the rear instead. I was told by numerous people from this site as well as my mechanic that this would infact cause a drive line vibration. Pro comp does not make a 4" block for our trucks. I was contemplating using the cst block but was informed that using the cst block would void the 5yr 60k warranty that pro comp now offers. So I am leaving it alone.. Good luck. Be sure to keep us informed.
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I just had my 11 LWB lifted with the pro comp lift. The kit came with a 3" rear block. I do not like the way the truck is sitting with the cali look. I looked into using a 4" block for the rear instead. I was told by numerous people from this site as well as my mechanic that this would infact cause a drive line vibration. Pro comp does not make a 4" block for our trucks. I was contemplating using the cst block but was informed that using the cst block would void the 5yr 60k warranty that pro comp now offers. So I am leaving it alone.. Good luck. Be sure to keep us informed.
That's ridiculous. There's no way a different block can void a warranty. That's insane.

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Re: Long Bed Lift problem

I have a LWB with the PC1 lift. The carrier bearing drop bracket will make a big difference....at least it did for me. I had a 5.5" block(bought it that way) I took that out and replaced with the original 3"-much better!! I have no shims at all.
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That's ridiculous. There's no way a different block can void a warranty. That's insane.
Agreed; though that is what the pro comp installer was told from pro comp!
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For the love of god don't remove that lift!! Lifted LWB T's look amazing. It wouldn't be right to remove the lift. Hopefully its just something simple. I hope you get it fixed quick. Also think you could hook us up with some pics. LWB T's are very hard to find pictures of. If I end up buying new for my next T I am going to really look into getting a LWB.

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Agreed; though that is what the pro comp installer was told from pro comp!
That's why I always keep a bullsh1t flag in my backpocket! Lol.

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Re: Long Bed Lift problem

The vibration from the rear block can be fixed, I have no doubts about that, its just a game of finding the right angle. Any good custom 4x4 shop can fix that. As far as voiding the warranty, I doubt I even have one since I installed it myself. The carrier bearing drop is actually making my vibration worse, it lowered the carrier bearing about an inch too far.

My problem is the front end, particularly the front driveshaft, going from the t-case to the front diff. They believe that is the problem, and if it is how could that be fixed? They mentioned possibly a custom front driveshaft.

What I will probably do is have the shop correct my rear driveshaft angles so I am vibration free without the front driveshaft installed. Then I will take make sure the tires are balanced and put the front shaft back on and see how bad it is and then go from there.

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Re: Long Bed Lift problem

Not that I can add anything, but I have an 08' Pro 4x LWB and it had the lift on it when I bought it. It looks good and drives nice, but I have no clue about these things. I'm told "and it was measured", that I have a 3" block on the rear. Was told it was a Pro Comp lift. I just had some 5100 bilsteins put on. I also have the stock struts on with a 4" spacer on the fronts. That's getting changed to Bilsteins HD when they finally get here. Maybe a spacer like what I have could help your problem. My truck drives more smooth than my stock 03' Chevy.....and I even have a shot strut on the passenger side. The truck is level with this set-up.
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May I suggest something to all you lift guys....Remove the front driveshaft and then go drive the truck...if the vibration disappears, then you know it's the front that's needs help, if it doesn't then you know to look at the back...

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I have a theory, and I could be completly wrong, but when I remove the front shaft a lot of vibration in the steering wheel decreases but not in the pedals. So I believe vibratiion from my rear shaft is transfering to the front (the steering wheel) via the t-case and front shaft. Any thoughts?

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Re: Long Bed Lift problem

Any resolution on this yet? Ive had the vibration for awhile. I have a 4" tapered block in the rear. No carrier bearing drop either. Was told 4x4 didn't need the drop. Then heard 4x4 LWB does.
Anyhoo.. Vibration was there with 3 inch block. Added PRG spacer, vibration still there. Added 4" tapered, it got a bit worse. But hated the draggin *** look a well, and the 4" block leveled it out.

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