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Old 09-12-2004, 03:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Talking Installed Daystar kit on Saturday

So far I have had no problems with it, personally I cannot even tell a difference in the ride quality. Went over some speedbumps and did not notice any shock problem, and it did not bottom out. I know alot of people were dogging the kit, but so far so good. Just thought I would share my experience.
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Old 09-12-2004, 04:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Had mine installed the other day and I love it, if anything I have noticed that when I go over railroad tracks or dips in the road it doesnt hit as hard as it did when it was stock. I think it rides nicer. Looks better too!
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Old 09-12-2004, 05:51 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Denial, denial.
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Yup, Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon....They WILL blow the struts.
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Old 09-13-2004, 07:48 AM   #5 (permalink)
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So far the only people that have had anything negative to say drive 4x4's, coincidence or mystery of the unknown?
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I spoke to the guy that installed mine and he said he could see no way that it would possibly blow the shocks. He said there is plenty of travel still and should not affect it at all. But I would rather take a chance on blowing the shocks than have that *** in the air look. On a side note, this guys drives a new dodge hemi 4x4 and he was ranting about what an awesome job Nissan done with the suspension on our trucks. He test drove it once he was done and was going on and on about how good it sounds and drives.
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I have been driving my CC 4X4 for two months now and am very happy with the performance of the kit. The ride is as good as it was stock and I have yet to notice the suspension bottoming out. This is after a trip from San Diego to Lake Tahoe and back and a lot of local driving, more than 2000 miles. If it eventually causes a problem so be it. The truck looks so much better leveled out that for me it was worth the risk.
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Actually, I think it was the 4x4 owners with the Off-Road package (pseudo-Rancho shocks/struts) that were having problems.
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Old 09-17-2004, 11:18 PM   #9 (permalink)
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This is my Daystar kit with an 850 pound bike, and 300 pounds of gear you can't see in the bed. I have 6500ish miles on our CC, OR, BT package 4 wheel drive. My suspension doesn't make a peep. It drives well with the Daystar kit, pushes a little in sharp turns, but that is probably more of the driver.

Oh, that is my wife, and the little one peeking out of her "infant-restraint-harness." She is a wiggle worm, what can I say?
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Ok, here's why the daystar kit messes-up the shock. The real problem is the way the factory shock captures the piston, it uses a crushed washer. I was talking to an "insider" of one of the big aftermarket suspension kit builders and they had a lot of problems using the stock style shocks and, consequently, went to using a race style shock.
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I do not think that someone who is competing with the item in question should really get involved in this discussion. My truck so far has still had no problems and from what I can see there is no reason to spend an extra $200 on a product that most likely did not have the financial backing, nor the R&D of a bigger company such as Daystar. PrerunnerGreg please understand that is not an attack on your product, just my opinion.
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I do not think that someone who is competing with the item in question should really get involved in this discussion. My truck so far has still had no problems and from what I can see there is no reason to spend an extra $200 on a product that most likely did not have the financial backing, nor the R&D of a bigger company such as Daystar. PrerunnerGreg please understand that is not an attack on your product, just my opinion.

I think your coments are way off base... I for one think Greg is right on... you should drive my truck after the Daystar... Believe me that kit is a piece of Sh** Several several people have had problems with it... the whole design is inferior to the kit Greg is offering so where did all of the R&D go... I would say your very lucky not to have any problems... and not the norm...
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Please re-read what I wrote, It is the SHOCK that is the problem. The daystar kit, especially on the off-road package, just stresses the shock beyond what it was designed. An aftermarket shock should be much better using a nut, instead of a crushed washer, to retain the piston. Since there is already a huge amount of preload, and even more with the offraod spring, the coil spacers make the situation worse. Although with the standard spring, the spacer should not hurt the shock.

Scott, you are right about not having the financial backing, I certainly am not a huge company, I am a one person operation doing this after my 50hr work week. But as far as Daystar's R&D, well, you've seen all the satisfied customers on this board. Im sure there are plenty of happy daystar owners out there. Im not sure how you came up with "the extra $200" though. How much is the daystar kit? how much to rent a spring compressor? how much for shipping or taxes? What is your time worth? Billet aluminum or $5 worth of urethane? As for R&D, well I cant say for sure, but I'd bet the engineers at Daystar aren't installing kits on customers trucks for free just to make sure they are satisfied and it works properly and willing to work with each customer to satisfy thier individual needs. This is in no way meant to down-play or disrespect any of the Tenneco companies or Nissan, but to point out some of the differences between a large company and one like myself.
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Pre-G,

If one of the big strut companies doesn't produce a lifting strut with more travel, well, I will probably pick up your kit and use my Daystar for a beer huggy. I appreciate you tackling the droopy nose in a full-on, frontal assaut.

I like the Daystar kit, it is serving it's purpose. However, I like your design so, so much better. Greg, I just wish your kit was offered for 2inches, or even 2.25. The front end's in the pictures I have seen just seem to be a little higher than the rear. I am sure they settle a little, but since I do use the bed to haul heavy stuff, the extra .5inches would be nice.

Sidenote: Scott, do not kid yourself about Daystar's R&D. When I called to ask them questions about their kit, to their credit they were friendly, but said, "We have never installed one." I think the polyurethane fumes are getting to their brains.
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