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Old 05-26-2005, 06:56 AM   #1 (permalink)
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pics of the spring upgrade

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Old 05-26-2005, 07:28 AM   #2 (permalink)
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i'm guessing this increases the rear spring rate and lifts the rear end???
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It acually make the spring rate more linear. A bit of increase initially but the rate doesnt ramp way up like it does with the overload leaf. The arc in the pack is mostly where the lift comes in.
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Woohoo! Can't wait to get mine!
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So I'm guessing this goes with new shocks in the rear, Fox Shox? How much of a lift do these springs provide?
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The springs themselves add 1.5" of lift. You can add blocks to get more lift if you desire. Yes a longer rear shock is certainly recomended. I offer the ranchos for $59, bilstiens for $89 or Fox reservoir for $199 for the rear.
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Greg, You describe the Bilsteins as: "ride is very good, not cushy but firm and acurate ("european") exelent for towing and heavy loads and off-roading. I also sell a Rancho RSX shock if you want a nice soft ride."

What about the Fox's ride?
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With reference to a stock truck, the rear sits abit higher (maybe 1.5 or 2" ?).

So if you get the spring pack, the rear is higher yet (3" higher than the front ?).

So I assume the spring pack is contemplated for use with a front lift? My understanding is that it would not be appropriate to get just the rear spring pack & associated rear shocks unless you had a front lift. Is that correct?

If so, how much of a lift and what is the associated cost (or cost options) for the front lift & associated front shocks?
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will they help with the axle warp problem?
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With reference to a stock truck, the rear sits abit higher (maybe 1.5 or 2" ?).

So if you get the spring pack, the rear is higher yet (3" higher than the front ?).

So I assume the spring pack is contemplated for use with a front lift? My understanding is that it would not be appropriate to get just the rear spring pack & associated rear shocks unless you had a front lift. Is that correct?

If so, how much of a lift and what is the associated cost (or cost options) for the front lift & associated front shocks?
The leaf pack is supposed to add about 1.5" lift, so on a stock 2WD, your rear would be as much as 4" above the front, and on a stock 4WD, you would have about 3.5" higher than the front. So with a standard PRG front kit of 2.5" for 2WD or 2" for 4x4, you will end up with only a 1.5" rake. Of course if you get new front coil overs that will go up to 3.5" with the longer a-arms, you can reduce the rake even more. Preliminary pricing on the coilovers (from other threads) is between $500 & $1000 depending on which kind you get from PRG.

I currently have 2.5" front and 1.5" rear PRG kits. When I get the leaf pack on, I will end up 2.5" higher in the rear which is like the rake of a stock 2WD.

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will they help with the axle warp problem?
Yes, that is one of my main reasons for ordering the leaf pack.
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The springs themselves add 1.5" of lift. You can add blocks to get more lift if you desire. Yes a longer rear shock is certainly recomended. I offer the ranchos for $59, bilstiens for $89 or Fox reservoir for $199 for the rear.
Greg,

I need to order a set of shocks from you. I do some heavy towing. Would you recommend the Bilstein or Fox shocks?

My truck is stock height in the rear with your 2-1/2" kit up front.

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Greg,

I need to order a set of shocks from you. I do some heavy towing. Would you recommend the Bilstein or Fox shocks?

My truck is stock height in the rear with your 2-1/2" kit up front.

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Same here, GREG with these springs replacing the overload and producing a more linear rate my question is what effect if any is there on our tow ratings and actual hauling capacity.
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Greg,

I need to order a set of shocks from you. I do some heavy towing. Would you recommend the Bilstein or Fox shocks?

My truck is stock height in the rear with your 2-1/2" kit up front.

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Greg stated in another thread, called "some different shocks, not titan specific" [btw the bold font below is mine, not Greg's]:
"Ive had the M/Ts on during all the shock changes. I valve the Foxs to suit my taste, and they ride super plush but still dont bottom-out and the rebound is really fast which helps alot on really rough dirt roads, but can seem a bit "loose" when towing. The RSX are about the smoothest shock available, speed bumps seem to just about disappear and rough roads smooth out alot, there is a bit less big hit absorption, but they do a great job for the price and offer a very "american car" like ride. The bilstiens Im using are very good for towing and the street/hwy ride is very good, very positive feeling. Great for 4xing but maybe a little too comunicative for fast desert running (although ive done plenty). Actaully less harsh than the stock o/r shocks and better controll with heavy loads or towing. When I say "european" ride I guess the easiest way to describe is firm yet compliant. You can feel whats going on but its not harsh at all. Unlike a 77 Cady, where you are disconnected from the road. I hope that helps describe the differences a bit".

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Thanks swarren1, I remember reading that but completely forgot. So Bilstein it will be...
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