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Old 05-01-2007, 06:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Torsion bars?

everyone I tell about adding the leveling kit askes me, doesnt the truck have torsion bars to raise the front?
Why don't we have them?
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Old 05-01-2007, 06:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Torsion bars?

We have coil springs. Seems to be much more common to see torsion bars on small/mid size trucks. I'd guess it's weight related. Larger and heavier truck with better and more consistent response throughout it's range of motion with a coil. Just a guess.

Edit: Maybe even fatigue related?
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Re: Torsion bars?

Probably because that is what the last generation of Ford's and Chevy's had on them. It's a total PIA, but it does work. Coils are much easier to deal with though.
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Re: Torsion bars?

torsion bars are crap....when u cranked them up the ride gets stiffer plus easiser to bend them...they make heavy duty tb but still not very good, in the long run they will sag....my 92 toy 4x4 had them, glad my titan doesnt!!!!
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Re: Torsion bars?

My Frontier had torsion bars, and I'm very glad my Titan does not have them. Mine always made noise, and was a total piece of junk.
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Re: Torsion bars?

I might also add that had the TITAN had a torsion bar setup, I would probably be driving a new Ford with the C/O setup instead.
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Re: Torsion bars?

yeah both of my chevy's i have had had the bars- sucks to try a leveling kit with them because it throws the cv joints all out of wack- also all the new chevys have coils in them- better ride and handling
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Re: Torsion bars?

That 2002+ Dodge Ram 1500 also uses torsion bars up front. I believe I read somewhere that on the '07 they went with coils. Another issue with t-bar suspensions; when you lift them you have to drop the t-bar mounting bracket, which leaves these ugly bars hanging down below your frame.
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Re: Torsion bars?

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when you lift them you have to drop the t-bar mounting bracket, which leaves these ugly bars hanging down below your frame.
I feel ashamed to even post a picture of a Ford, but oh well here goes:


^^^Yes, like this:

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Re: Torsion bars?

That picture makes me want to do the tortion bar upgrade to my titan!!!!! JK.
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Re: Torsion bars?

Funny fact. The Rancho, Procomp, and Fabtech kits use a "subframe strut brace" that actaully does nothing to improve strenght but is there for looks because these companies think buyers like that torsion bar drop bracket look.
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Re: Torsion bars?

They really dont add kick resistance? I though they were there to help in hitting stuff front on and bending everything back. Can I take mine off then? I hate how they look.
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Re: Torsion bars?

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Funny fact. The Rancho, Procomp, and Fabtech kits use a "subframe strut brace" that actaully does nothing to improve strenght but is there for looks because these companies think buyers like that torsion bar drop bracket look.

I too, like "new guy", thought they were more like "crash bars" so that the entire front end doesn't get knocked back underneath during a front collision???
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Funny fact. The Rancho, Procomp, and Fabtech kits use a "subframe strut brace" that actaully does nothing to improve strenght but is there for looks because these companies think buyers like that torsion bar drop bracket look.
I thought with the added leverage of a dropped sub-frame, you need bracing to ensure nothing would get tweaked? They still don't look as bad as dropped torsion bars though.
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Re: Torsion bars?

They attach to thin sheet metal on the cross member with a 1/2" bolt in single shear. No strength to speak of.
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