SWAY-A-WAY question

tutttitan · 10-19-2007, 10:54 PM

I am getting a set of SAW coilovers with elibach springs what would you recomend for the spring weights these are two springs for each coilover and I will be using it mostly for desert offroading

kartman · 10-20-2007, 12:53 AM

dual rate shocks on a titan? Blt in or custom application?

SDTitan1 · 10-20-2007, 06:31 AM

wow ... can't wait to see that

54warrior · 10-20-2007, 07:08 AM

I don't know about the truck world, but in the ATV world, dual and triple rate springs are only necessary because of poor valving. With the correct valving a single rate spring is all that's necessary.

Maybe Greg can provide some insight into this?

You can figure the rate of the two combined springs by doing this though:

(A*B)/(A+B)= Spring rate of combined springs

There are some useful tools here:

http://www.proshocks.com/calcs/index.htm

PrerunnerGreg · 10-20-2007, 07:39 AM

There just isnt enough travel to make dual-rates work. You wil jsut endup blowing through the first part of the travel and bottoming everywhere. Single rate is the way to go. Even the fastes desert trucks are going to a more linear rate (longer bottom coil, very short upper).

tutttitan · 10-20-2007, 10:05 AM

my truck has a shock hoop that i made for it i have the shocks on now, but the springs were just what the guy had in the shop and im going to switch them because they are too soft and are not long enough currently it is at 500 over 700 ill get sum pics later

tutttitan · 10-20-2007, 10:32 AM

here are the pics and greg also wondering what would it run for prg upper arms, the mid travel lower arms and the extended steering links

ptgarcia · 10-20-2007, 02:52 PM

Geez, the top coil is just about binding at ride height. May be better to just run a single linear coil.

tutttitan · 10-20-2007, 05:47 PM

those are just temporary tell i get new coils i will prolly end up goin with the duals and a lot stiffer

PrerunnerGreg · 10-21-2007, 05:57 PM

Holy coilbind Batman!!! You just need a longer (18" x600 spring) and good valving. You may want look into getting a tender spring too. It looks like you have 12" shocks??? You already have dual rate and you can see how well that is working. Also, be sure not to tighten that upper res clamp too tight, that is right where the dividing piston is.

tutttitan · 10-21-2007, 08:28 PM

you think one 18" spring would be long enough and ur right that is 12"

kartman · 10-21-2007, 08:38 PM

looks like the arm will hit the res hose real close the the threads on bump.

tutttitan · 10-21-2007, 09:59 PM

nah it clears by over an inch

kartman · 10-21-2007, 10:14 PM

must be the pic angle then

newguy · 10-21-2007, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrerunnerGreg

Holy coilbind Batman!!! You just need a longer (18" x600 spring) and good valving. You may want look into getting a tender spring too. It looks like you have 12" shocks??? You already have dual rate and you can see how well that is working. Also, be sure not to tighten that upper res clamp too tight, that is right where the dividing piston is.

Really? I went off roading any my rezzy slid all around, when I got home I tighten the heck out of it, but not enough to what I would think deform the rezzy? I mean mine is held on with a worm clamp and I tightened it with a screw driver, but I didnt think you could get a worm clamp to tighten that tight with out it stripping out.