Meg, can I get your opinion on Rize lifts for F-150s? If you know anything about them. I have a buddy who wants to do the 12" on his '05 Lariat and run 24s on 40s. Feel free to PM me the answer.
haha, agreed. I call BS!!!
To be honest I don't know anything about lift's for the newer F150s, but I bet it would look pretty good. I do however think it's going to be a pretty dang heavy setup and he better be getting some serious gears and be careful if he offroads because not only are 40"s pretty big, they're going to be really heavy and put a serious strain on his axles. Not to mention, 12" of lift on a truck with IFS is pretty stupid if you ask me, especially a half ton. Even if it's a pavement princess there's no way it will drive very good, and I don't see it riding very good either. But that's just my opinion. The axles and everything will hold up fine to the tires on the street though, I just wouldn't be too hard on it offroad, especially with IFS.
To be honest I don't know anything about lift's for the newer F150s, but I bet it would look pretty good. I do however think it's going to be a pretty dang heavy setup and he better be getting some serious gears and be careful if he offroads because not only are 40"s pretty big, they're going to be really heavy and put a serious strain on his axles. Not to mention, 12" of lift on a truck with IFS is pretty stupid if you ask me, especially a half ton. Even if it's a pavement princess there's no way it will drive very good, and I don't see it riding very good either. But that's just my opinion. The axles and everything will hold up fine to the tires on the street though, I just wouldn't be too hard on it offroad, especially with IFS.
It's definitely a street queen. It never goes off the pavement. Especially not with 24s on 40s
He is going to be doing gears, I think he said 4.88s. Are those big enough?
well if built right it will ride good even with ifs...to bad you didnt live out here I would take ya for a ride...city or highway 10mph or 75mph mine drives and rides great, but thats why I said make sure if you go big have a someone that knows what they are doing do it.
yes there are gears out there for the titans. 3.73 and 4.10 gears. a rearend shop in california has done about 30 or so titans. the gears are for a 98 and up jeep cherokee with the v8 in it. i spoke with the anthony at the shop in cali and i will be sending my diff to him. he will do the gears and everything for like 350 if shipped to him. if you take your truck it is about 550
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meg and as far as your response, wow. i dont even know where to start! yes it says buying one at a time, being broke sucks, just cause i have a business doesnt mean i get the free so that would mean i still have to pay for them. i have other bills as well so i cant just dropp 266 a tire my cost and get all 4. i have had big 4wds before and done axle swaps on some but not all. in order to break and axle you have to do certain things, which you of all people should know that right? if you get in mud and it is mud then your fine with stock axles. when you get in sh.t like rocks or holes with a hard bottom or roots or trash in them yes you will tear the axle and the drive line out. see maybe where you play in the mud at isnt the same as where the rest of us play, so with that being said different strokes for different fokes. i am impressed thoroughly with you know all about 4wd knowledge. your quick to say you think what someone is doing is stupid with no knowledge of what kind of lift it should even have on it. like one of the other guys said you can have an ifs and have it lifted high and it ride great! it is all in the products you use and the people you have make it and install it.
meg and as far as your response, wow. i dont even know where to start! yes it says buying one at a time, being broke sucks, just cause i have a business doesnt mean i get the free so that would mean i still have to pay for them. i have other bills as well so i cant just dropp 266 a tire my cost and get all 4. i have had big 4wds before and done axle swaps on some but not all. in order to break and axle you have to do certain things, which you of all people should know that right? if you get in mud and it is mud then your fine with stock axles. when you get in sh.t like rocks or holes with a hard bottom or roots or trash in them yes you will tear the axle and the drive line out. see maybe where you play in the mud at isnt the same as where the rest of us play, so with that being said different strokes for different fokes. i am impressed thoroughly with you know all about 4wd knowledge. your quick to say you think what someone is doing is stupid with no knowledge of what kind of lift it should even have on it. like one of the other guys said you can have an ifs and have it lifted high and it ride great! it is all in the products you use and the people you have make it and install it.
I've broken and seen a ton of axle's broken in just mud, but then again I actually go in mud and not mud puddles like most. I am entitled to my own opinion, correct? Putting pure mud tires on a 2wd daily driver is quite possibly one of the worst ideas I've ever heard. If you wanted such a good mud truck, why did you buy a 2wd? Not to mention, 99% of the people that avidly offroad don't do it in their DD, they have another rig. And going back to the comment's you made about not needing an axle swap just goes to show that you either don't know what you're talking about, which is my first guess, or you obviously don't do any serous offroading in which case you have no need for Bogger's. I'm confused at where your lift comment is going, I never said anything about the lift you're supposedly having made. If it's referring to my comment to Etal, then you are just as sensless as I thought as far as trucks go. Show me a half ton truck with IFS that will take any kind of abuse with 40s. Oh wait, you can't. If you're going to be doing anything more than 8" of lift IMO you need to do a SAS. You absolutely cannot offroad in a 4wd truck with IFS that has that much lift and expect it to hold up, it's just not going to happen. And you can only do so much offroading in a 2wd. Just for the record, since multiple people asked in the last thread I saw you make an *** out of yourself in, what's your name and the name of your shop? I think I'm going to have to see if Mr. Kartman would like to chime in on this one, so he can give you the reason's of why that setup would be useless in the desert as well then we'll have some more opinions and they'll be from a different perspective on different terrain.....
A half ton truck on 40's is useless for serious offroading, thats a fact, just get some Toyos like mine,,,great on the streets and in my case I dont see dirt to often but when I do they work just fine, last long, quiet, all that good stuff....
A half ton truck on 40's is useless for serious offroading, thats a fact, just get some Toyos like mine,,,great on the streets and in my case I dont see dirt to often but when I do they work just fine, last long, quiet, all that good stuff....
Exactly, why would you want the worst riding and worst wearing tires ever made for your DD?
Meg remember most people dont have the power from the motor to a set of boggers that dig and hook in the mud lol so as far as a stock axle goes for most it will be fine. But you know from experience here lately what power+REAL mudtires+mud='s lol......
If you put a set of 38's or bigger of "REAL" mud tires on with a good powered motor on regular axles and the correct gears and got play in the mud....your going to break the axles sooner or later.
Meg remember most people dont have the power from the motor to a set of boggers that dig and hook in the mud lol so as far as a stock axle goes for most it will be fine. But you know from experience here lately what power+REAL mudtires+mud='s lol......
If you put a set of 38's or bigger of "REAL" mud tires on with a good powered motor on regular axles and the correct gears and got play in the mud....your going to break the axles sooner or later.
Yeah I have had some bad luck with my Ford lately. lol But I think it's very safe to say that my Titan has far more power than a 351, right? I've seen a couple trucks with stock 351s on Sterling 10.25 rears with 3.50s and 3.73s on 37" and 38" Bogger's tear the rear end's up. And a Sterling is way tougher than a D44, so there's no way it'll hold if he does any serious offroading. Now if he just splashes through puddles like most on here, it'll probably hold up.
lol the D44 in our titans isnt even holding up for people with stock tires pulling a trailer. lol neverless with 38" boggers!
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yes you are correct everyone is entitled to their own opinion. i do realize that i am putting a setup on a 2wd truck, but once again it is all a tax write-off. the lift, tires, axle(if needed), gears, lockers, whatever i do to my truck i get back. once again with that being said i dont care if **** breaks, it will just get replaced. yes it is my dd, but i also have a bike and an old s-10. so it wont be that big of a deal. no i dont take my truck through some horribly deep mud, cause even with boggers on it, it wont make it. but whatever my truck with boggers with go through it will be tested, dont doubt that. this truck does not see the pavement all the time. everytime water hits the ground im playing, and sometimes it is just that playing, but i have taken it through some deep deep stuff. gotten stuck. but i dont care. that is what a truck is made for to use not to show to someone about how you have x-amount of dollars in and it never even goes down a dirt road moreless a mud hole. as far as a truck with ifs and running 40's i dont know of one with 40's but know of several with 38's m/t's and they beat the hell of of their half-tons and nothing has gone wrong as far as the suspesion or powertrain goes. one buddy of mine has an 04 f-150 with 10" on 38 pro-comp x-terrain, granted yes they are m/t's but they arent boggers either. so yes there are trucks with ifs that could run 40's and beat the hell of them and not completely tear out rearends or axles. also you were saying your titan has more power than your 351 right? maybe. 351's completely stock yes have less power depending on the 351. they made 3 different 351's. if you have a modiffied or a winsor it could easly be pushing more than the titans 317hp if it has anything done to it.
well i didnt have a partnership in the business when i bought my truck in may of 07. if i would have had the business i would have bought a 4wd titan instead. but the lift capabilities are really limited on the titans, unless of course you just do a one off custom lift.
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