yes you are correct everyone is entitled to their own opinion. i do realize that i am putting a setup on a 2wd truck, but once again it is all a tax write-off. the lift, tires, axle(if needed), gears, lockers, whatever i do to my truck i get back. once again with that being said i dont care if **** breaks, it will just get replaced. yes it is my dd, but i also have a bike and an old s-10. so it wont be that big of a deal. no i dont take my truck through some horribly deep mud, cause even with boggers on it, it wont make it. but whatever my truck with boggers with go through it will be tested, dont doubt that. this truck does not see the pavement all the time. everytime water hits the ground im playing, and sometimes it is just that playing, but i have taken it through some deep deep stuff. gotten stuck. but i dont care. that is what a truck is made for to use not to show to someone about how you have x-amount of dollars in and it never even goes down a dirt road moreless a mud hole. as far as a truck with ifs and running 40's i dont know of one with 40's but know of several with 38's m/t's and they beat the hell of of their half-tons and nothing has gone wrong as far as the suspesion or powertrain goes. one buddy of mine has an 04 f-150 with 10" on 38 pro-comp x-terrain, granted yes they are m/t's but they arent boggers either. so yes there are trucks with ifs that could run 40's and beat the hell of them and not completely tear out rearends or axles. also you were saying your titan has more power than your 351 right? maybe. 351's completely stock yes have less power depending on the 351. they made 3 different 351's. if you have a modiffied or a winsor it could easly be pushing more than the titans 317hp if it has anything done to it.
I do not have a 351 in either of my Ford's, but regardless of the fact any stock 351 (Windsor, cleveland or modified) will have alot less power than a Titan, maybe you should thoroughly read my post where I clearly stated these were stock motor's, axles, and gears that I've seen this happen with not modified engine's. 38"s cannot be put in the same category as 40"s, think of the performance loss going from 35"s to 37"s, it's huge. That's like me saying "hmm I wonder why my Ford was fine for 2 years getting the crap beat out of it with 36" TSLs, then all of a sudden 4 trips after I put my 38" Bogger's on I tear it all to hell, I wonder why that happened, must've been a coincidence". If people are able to beat the crap out of IFS trucks on 40s, why have I never even seen anyone talking about doing this, much less seen it acually happen. The only IFS trucks on 40s I've seen are complete pavement pounder's. Everyone I know that plan's on going over 6"-8" of suspension lift on anything bigger than less agressive 37"s that actually offroads does a SAS. I wonder why, could it be that the IFS won't hold up to any real abuse, or is it that they just love to waste money and do tons of unnecessary work? Just give it up already, it's quite obvious that I know what I'm talking about, you don't own a 4x4 shop, and we're getting no where with all this bickering.
well i didnt have a partnership in the business when i bought my truck in may of 07. if i would have had the business i would have bought a 4wd titan instead. but the lift capabilities are really limited on the titans, unless of course you just do a one off custom lift.
How are the Titan's lift capabilities limited? We have a very diverse market ranging from 15" Full Throttle Bracket lifts, to 4" performance package's, 4" Spindle's for the 2wds, miltiple 6" Bracket lifts, multiple C/Os that Greg has custom valved for our trucks, 8" Bracket lift's, 7" Bracket lift's, C/Os that can be combined with a bracket lift for up to 10" of lift. I'm not seeing to many limits here, but that's just me.
I know of one that was at SEMA a few years back but other than that one I have never seen another. I almost go to every truck show on the West Coast and have never heard or seen one lol...6 g's for parts and the lift kit looks terrible as do most FTS lifts in my opinion.
I know of one that was at SEMA a few years back but other than that one I have never seen another. I almost go to every truck show on the West Coast and have never heard or seen one lol...6 g's for parts and the lift kit looks terrible as do most FTS lifts in my opinion.
Could be, I just thought I saw someone post a while back about it.
your right meg all the way! i guess no one has your intelligence right? well you pop off at the mouth about a lot of ****, but there is a guy that has made it clear in the forum his titan is ifs with 40's and not a damn bit of trouble and a buddy with ifs on 44's and nothing either, but where is your opinion which is widely distriputed towards his comments? oh wait you dont have none cause his stuff isnt broke or had issues. see you dont take that into consideration. some people have problems some dont. if everyone with a titan had the same issues there wouldnt be sooooo many threads. now to the motors, wow you do know a lot. the 07 titan is 317hp at the motor. a stock 351 285-300hp at the motor, but let me guess you already knew that too right? lastly, there are some different lifts for the titan your right once again, but anything over 6" in a titan is EXSPENSIVE! i can get a 12" for f-350 with a diesel in it for less than what you can just buy the front box of 12" from bp. but i guess enough is enough bickering as you call it. so i know you will have a responce and i would love to hear it cause we all know on tt you will definetly tell us what you think no matter if you know anything about it or not!
your right meg all the way! i guess no one has your intelligence right? well you pop off at the mouth about a lot of ****, but there is a guy that has made it clear in the forum his titan is ifs with 40's and not a damn bit of trouble and a buddy with ifs on 44's and nothing either, but where is your opinion which is widely distriputed towards his comments? oh wait you dont have none cause his stuff isnt broke or had issues. see you dont take that into consideration. some people have problems some dont. if everyone with a titan had the same issues there wouldnt be sooooo many threads. now to the motors, wow you do know a lot. the 07 titan is 317hp at the motor. a stock 351 285-300hp at the motor, but let me guess you already knew that too right? lastly, there are some different lifts for the titan your right once again, but anything over 6" in a titan is EXSPENSIVE! i can get a 12" for f-350 with a diesel in it for less than what you can just buy the front box of 12" from bp. but i guess enough is enough bickering as you call it. so i know you will have a responce and i would love to hear it cause we all know on tt you will definetly tell us what you think no matter if you know anything about it or not!
I never said that I know all, nor did I insinuate so. I know alot about trucks compared to some, and very little compared to others, but atleast I can admit it when I don't know about something and I do not comment about it acting like I do. Didn't I read in another thread that you claim to get 25-30 mpg in your Titan? Seems to me that you are a habitual story teller. Not to mention, I said it's going to cause problem's if you offroad. I already posted that if you don't offroad, the truck will hold up just fine, didn't I? The only tucks on 40s in this forum that I've seen are 2wd and don't offroad, if they do PM them and tell them to post up some pics and vids. Mr. Onelow has even said IFS trucks on 40s are worthless offroad so I'm assuming that's who you're talking about since he's the only one on 40s that's posted in this thread.
And the hp rating for 351s also depends on what year they are as well, Ford claims anywhere from 200hp-300hp at the crank, but either way they're not nearly as efficient as the Titan's. So, actual hp at the wheels is alot more on the Titan's than the Ford's. I've owned a few Ford's with 351s, no matter which model c,w,or m the Titan has a significant amount of power over the 351s. In that case let's take my 460 which claims to have around 300hp and put it up against the Titan. Although the 460 has a ton of torque even with my 33"s when I first got it before I lifted it, it wouldn't spin them as nearly as well as my Titan spins my 35"s.
And once again you made another ingenius comment, of course a leaf or coil lift is going to be significantly less than a bracket lift, why would you even use that as an example? A 6" lift for a Ford is $700, where as a 6" lift for a Titan is what about $1200-$1400. The more you talk, the more obvious it is that you do not know what you're talking about. Any one can look up some hp ratings online, that doesn't prove anything. Please tell me your name, the name of your shop and where it's located. I have a few friend's in Tx and if it's not too far away I'm going to have them swing in and check your shop out.
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Originally Posted by onelowmini
A half ton truck on 40's is useless for serious offroading, thats a fact, just get some Toyos like mine,,,great on the streets and in my case I dont see dirt to often but when I do they work just fine, last long, quiet, all that good stuff....
it is funny how you through out aquisations about other posts. no i was getting 22mpg on the highway, but once again it was made clear that there is no ****ing way a titan can get that cause no one elses does! well its bull ****. im not a rocket scientist, but do the math. 28gallon tank - 640 miles to the tank, tell me what you come up with. now once again that is all highway miles from fillup to empty no city driving at all. i make ingenious comments? wow really. how ingnorant can you be than to say my titan spins 35's easier than my 460 in my ford with 33's? come on of course it should, some people call that a weight factor. your titan weighs a hell of alot less than you ford does so 300hp in a titan vs 300hp in a ford it wont act the same. wow. i will give you credit you do have a point on somethings but your opinion sucks for the most part. IMO. a guy asks you about a lift on a truck you and blatenly made it clear you knew nothing about that lift for that truck, but it didnt slow you down on how to tell him how it is completely stupid to do that lift and tires on a ifs. who cares what you think about 40's on an ifs. if the man wants to do it then **** it let it go. you may have had expiernces or seen it 100000 times that it wont work, but we dont come in here and tell your ford is a pos cause it is always broke or tore up do we? nope. so if you are asked a question then you can answer it, but not everyone cares to hear your 2 cents cause your a florida princess with a big truck. if you want to look at the shop www.jbccoffroad.com if you want me name and number its robert 817-298-4321. the shop is in azle. if you have a bone to pick then pick up the phone and call me.
oh and of course a bracket lift is going to be more than a spring or coil lift. i said nothing in comparison to that. i made the comment that the lifts for the titan over 6" is expspensive. that is why i also said the lift oftions are limited. for the money to lift ratio it isnt worth it, unless you just break down and have a one off custom built cause it will completely different. and the lift from full throttle never was marketed. they have never sold one to date. i called them as well. im sorry i emailed them. they are in cali so i couldnt call yet. but, with a spring or coil lift your limitations are endless and larger varieties of options. you can do 1" at a time if you wanted to whereas with bracket lifts you have to either build your own or take whats on the market. i would like to see a bracket lift for our trucks that is adjustable. comes with bags so you pay 4000 for a 10" or something and you can go 10-14"'s now that would be worth the money and it is completely cost efficient too, but i dont see that happening. cause see people like ones with a titan, just want to be able to bolt it on and drive off. we dont care for our trucks to be down for 2-3 weeks for a straight axle conversion.
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