mine went twice once, in a month and 2000miles on the ticker, obviously still stock. second was with 305/65R/17s so wider 32.8" tall tires good luck with the boggers... I actually found a guy locally with boggers on his titan, knight chrome rims too.. it's gonna be a short lived rear end I imagine he'll pay for it too with a lift and huge tires I don't think the dealer will cover it under warranty
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that blows cause i am going to be rough on it. when it leaves the street its balls to the wall. it will be tested and tried time and time again
Yeah, I just don't see it holding up if you're rough on it. With the lift you're getting, tires will be the cheapest thing you buy. Bogger's are going to last 15k miles, Toyo's will last 40k. Why not check into some Mud Grapp's? I know they used to be cheap when they first came out, not sure how much they are now, but that would give you the agressive look you want, a good ride on the street, and they'll last 40k miles. Plus they don't dig down alot like Bogger's and Swamper's in mud, or atleast not in our mud, so you'd be less likely to break something. They do clean out well in slick mud if you get some tire speed though, so I think they would work good for your truck. Just a suggestion, but it would suck to dump all that money into your truck and break it the first time you're hard on it.
Yeah, I just don't see it holding up if you're rough on it. With the lift you're getting, tires will be the cheapest thing you buy. Bogger's are going to last 15k miles, Toyo's will last 40k. Why not check into some Mud Grapp's? I know they used to be cheap when they first came out, not sure how much they are now, but that would give you the agressive look you want, a good ride on the street, and they'll last 40k miles. Plus they don't dig down alot like Bogger's and Swamper's in mud, or atleast not in our mud, so you'd be less likely to break something. They do clean out well in slick mud if you get some tire speed though, so I think they would work good for your truck. Just a suggestion, but it would suck to dump all that money into your truck and break it the first time you're hard on it.
I'm going to have to slightly disagree. When my buddy bought his F-150 used, it had 33" Mud Grapps on it. They were horrible. Very noisy. Very rough riding. Just all around an unpleasant tiire. But they did their thing offroad. But they can cake up. Do keep that in mind. A great tire off road, on road, not so much. Just my 2 cents.
swampers are the best mud tires from what I've heard/boggers specifically... but best meaning the bite good because of cleanout and what not. so spinning them hard through mud = bad for the titan's already indangered species drivetrain... mud graps also would probably be less irritating on the road COMPARED to boggers or even SSRs... they'd definetly last longer than boggers or iroks from what I've heard from people who've used them. for me it's all hear say though as I've personally never used either. I have a set of Iroks sitting that I hope to use eventually. and I've used a few other mud terrains which I don't recommend at all besides mudd or street, not both. so imo they either lean one way or the other NONE that I've used are a hairsplit and offer superiority in both. usually, it'll grip but be soft and wear bad on the street. or it'll be harder and suck in the mud compared to some others, or be a really bad ride on the road and on and on the cycle continues
Yeah, I just don't see it holding up if you're rough on it. With the lift you're getting, tires will be the cheapest thing you buy. Bogger's are going to last 15k miles, Toyo's will last 40k. Why not check into some Mud Grapp's? I know they used to be cheap when they first came out, not sure how much they are now, but that would give you the agressive look you want, a good ride on the street, and they'll last 40k miles. Plus they don't dig down alot like Bogger's and Swamper's in mud, or atleast not in our mud, so you'd be less likely to break something. They do clean out well in slick mud if you get some tire speed though, so I think they would work good for your truck. Just a suggestion, but it would suck to dump all that money into your truck and break it the first time you're hard on it.
yea i know a guy with mud grapplers and they are horrible on the road and ride like poo. i have been told this by some other dealers and guys i know that run the mud graps, they are/have discontinued alot of their sizes cause they were having horrible issues with the tires blowing apart on the road. i dont know i want something tough tough looking and really good in the mud cause it will definetly see alot of it. more than it will want too. lol
I know a ton of people with Mud Grap's on pure street trucks, yes they're loud, but they ride good for MTs, they look agressive and they last long. I've driven My Buddy Rob's F250 on 38"s, my buddy Glen's F250 on 40s, my buddy Justin's F250 on 38"s, my cousin Nick's Superduty on 35"s and ridden in my buddy Jake's Chevy 1500 on 35"s. They've all owned mud trucks with Swamper's so they're not like most, who have nothing to compare the tire's too other than street tires. All of the above rode smooth as can be, yes at around 10mph or so they feel a little bumpy, but they don't track the road at all (Swamper's are famous for that), they ride great at highway speeds (once again buy a set of Swamper's and tell me the Mud Grap's ride bad then), they're good in the rain (Swamper's are horrible in this category too), and neither Glen nor Justin have their's balanced and they ride great at highway speeds . If you think they ride bad, you may want to rethink your plans for running MTs, and take a ride in a truck with Bogger's if you want to know what a rough ride is. If you've ever owned a set of true MTs (any Swamper's other than the trxus), or multiple sets like I have, you can appreiciate all the R&D these companies have put into developing these tires that look agressive, but don't ride like agressive MTs. So when I say they ride good, I don't mean they ride as well as street tires, just that they ride great for MTs. Around here before the lift craze started people that had street truck's ran ATs (usually 35"s, sometimes 37"s), and those wit MTs had them because they offroaded and needed them, not because they thought they looked cool. And almost everyone with a lifted DD was a redneck and also had a mud truck, there were very few people that lifted truck's because they saw someone else's ride and thought it looked cool. Then everyone started lifting their trucks and people wanted the look of the agressive MTs, but still wanted good street manners, and good tread wear. That's when all these company's (Nitto, Toyo, Cooper, Swamper Trxus STS) started making all these big tires, that looked agressive, yet still rode good and were made to last.
yea i know a guy with mud grapplers and they are horrible on the road and ride like poo. i have been told this by some other dealers and guys i know that run the mud graps, they are/have discontinued alot of their sizes cause they were having horrible issues with the tires blowing apart on the road. i dont know i want something tough tough looking and really good in the mud cause it will definetly see alot of it. more than it will want too. lol
Toyo M/T's my friend and just FYI, this: isn't two thumbs up, it's double middle fingers.
what shocks would one use for the back? I figure 3.5" rear lift for the deaver 4wd, then 2" block or something... so the 4wd 4" lift rear shocks wouldn't be the same ones from the numbers listed on the prg website? getting some 2-4" saw rears so I'm just checking if I can use them if I do end up going big...
Toyo M/T's my friend and just FYI, this: isn't two thumbs up, it's double middle fingers.
lol Etal and Hawaii are right. You can get Super Swamer's which will be the best DOT approved MT you can get, but the ride will suffer, they'll track the grooves in the road really bad, you'll have to be careful stopping in the rain, if you hit any puddles hold on, you may stay on the road, you may run off the shoulder, they'll be loud, they'll ride like complete crap, and they'll wear out fast. Or you can go with Toyo's or Cooper Disco STTs, and have a great ride on the road, get 40k miles out of your tires, they're quiet, and they'll yield way better traction offroad compared to an AT without sacrificing much ride quality over an AT, but they won't do anywhere near as good in nasty mud as Swamper's. But with that comes with the fact that they'll be alot easier on your rear end than Swamper's which is also something you should be concerned with. Every Swamper I've owned (SSR, TSL, TSL Radials, Thornbird's, and Bogger's) other than my Trxus suck big time in the rain, and on wet roads, they ride bad, they're loud, you can't get anyone to balance them, and they all wore down pretty quick aside from the Radials. I'm not trying to rain on your plans of having a sweet looking truck, I'm just trying to help you out, I've known a few people that didn't heed my advice about Swamper's and hated them and ended up just living with them or selling them for a loss just to get rid of them to buy something else.
Agree with you on what you said about the swampers. My SSRs were horrible in puddles on the road when it was raining. Was fun trying to keep the truck in one lane. even being radials they still didn't get good mileage out of them and they were like $340 a piece not including mount and balance i believe. balancing them wasn't fun either. I have no problem with tires being loud though. I like the sound
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04-21-2008, 08:53 PM
good luck with the boggers... I actually found a guy locally with boggers on his titan, knight chrome rims too.. it's gonna be a short lived rear end I imagine he'll pay for it too with a lift and huge tires I don't think the dealer will cover it under warranty 
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