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06-21-2008, 10:42 PM
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total chaos vs. PRG UCAs
whats the difference between TC vs. PRG UCAs if any, i have a killer deal i might not be able to pass up on SAWS w/ TC UCAs (used for about 2 years but never offroad) and was wondering if i should get them or has greg done something different with them ?
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06-22-2008, 06:00 AM
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Re: total chaos vs. PRG UCAs
Basically, they are the same thing. Major difference is that the PRG UCA's have adjustable heims at the inner mounting points, which will allow for adjustment of the camber. Reason being: some owners who have really pounded on their trucks have bent UCA mounts on the frame and this adjustability is needed to correct the camber.
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06-22-2008, 06:51 AM
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Re: total chaos vs. PRG UCAs
is it a good deal for a pair of SAWS w/ TC UCAs for $900 this guy in town is going to sell them to me ? thanks for the info i didnt know that about the cambers i ask about that
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06-22-2008, 07:28 AM
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Re: total chaos vs. PRG UCAs
Sounds like a good deal to me. I say go for it.
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06-22-2008, 09:07 AM
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Re: total chaos vs. PRG UCAs
the angles/geometry on Greg's are outstanding, I don't have a pic handy of a TC arm installed but if you find one, compare it to this huge pic below (gotta reduce the size) and you'll see how much clearance Greg's allow......
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06-22-2008, 01:19 PM
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Re: total chaos vs. PRG UCAs
Well somebody better swoop on Ricepow's UCA's and CO's cuz im in Vegas too and im only about $150 bones short of picking them up myself. I get paid Friday so if somebody doesn't pick em up by then they're mine!
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06-22-2008, 02:09 PM
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Re: total chaos vs. PRG UCAs
I was gonna pick those UCA's up, but the IRS came knocking from a couple years ago, so I, U know, have to like pay them or something....
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06-22-2008, 07:19 PM
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Re: total chaos vs. PRG UCAs
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Here's a thread I started awhile back that contains some info on the NCD arms. NCD UCA's???
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06-23-2008, 11:33 PM
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Re: total chaos vs. PRG UCAs
The TC arms have a lot more caster (not needed or really good) as well. I have run both and the PRG give you more of the good stuff and adjustment.
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06-28-2008, 01:54 PM
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Re: total chaos vs. PRG UCAs
prg arms i believe are much better over all I beleive
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06-28-2008, 05:29 PM
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Re: total chaos vs. PRG UCAs
I have the tc a arms and they are squeeking like a .... after 15k miles or so of hard USE.
I took my truck to an offroad shop and they said the design was inferior and would wear out super quick (something about joint being unprotected and no way to lube) I dont know and wasnt listening, but they were perplexed. anyway, they sprayed some grease to get rid of the squeeks for free and I was on my way... just thought I would share, now I have this concern troubleshooting help please any ideas ? |
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06-28-2008, 08:24 PM
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Re: total chaos vs. PRG UCAs
Idea 1. That shop is full of idiots.
TC arms come with zerk fitting so you can grease the bushings. They will get squeeky just lube em, they also shave the bushings a lot but its not a problem. Get a grease gun and some multi purpose grease and do it yourself.
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06-28-2008, 08:57 PM
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Re: total chaos vs. PRG UCAs
kartmans right... shop is full of idiotos! i had the tc UCAs and sometimes would squeak like a mofo! had them for 2 years but they were good, did the job and were reliable. just a mini-squirt of wd40 did the trick. tried the grease gun via zirk fittings but that didn't do shat. still squeaked till i sprayed the wd40 and bamm, gone! reapply wd40 once a month and you'll be squeak free.
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06-29-2008, 06:17 AM
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Re: total chaos vs. PRG UCAs
I belive the shop Voodoo went to was talking about the uniball. And Im pretty sure they were concerned because they are used to jonny-joints and old-style trucks. There are NO greasable fittings on any new Nissans. The Uniballs are basically sealed and use a teflon liner. Dirt cannot get between the race and the ball (this is why the ball/bearing is shiny, its constantly being cleaned by the teflon liner and is too tight to allow dirt in). The outer uniball or bearing should really never need anyhting). The squeaking comes from the urethane inner pivots, this is typical of that style of joint, but TC does provide zerk fittings so periodic maintenance is easy.
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