Overheating pulling 6K - Page 3

ned946 · 07-18-2005, 12:30 PM

What's the gear selector for then?
Its a lock out to keep your tranny from hunting back and forth.
I lock out mine into 3rd when the tranny hunts or the engine is bogged down or tranny temps rise.
I have a brain and I'm not afraid to use it!

skyhammer · 07-18-2005, 12:40 PM

HVT; You can't compare the little hills in New England to the the real mountains out west. Drive you rig out west to the Sierra Nevada's, Cascades, Rockies etc. You will change the way you think about leaving the Titan in Fourth gear only. There are no real mountains east of the Mississippi.

HackinHound · 07-18-2005, 01:15 PM

We tow 7000 lbs all the time from the central coast to the Sierra Nevadas with no tranny heat problems. I pretty much just leave it in 4th. Like Ron Popeil says "set it and forget it". The only time I had the heat rise was backing a 7500 lb load up my driveway (200' long, steep and loose footing) - finally had to put it in 4LO to keep it cool.

KTMNealio · 07-18-2005, 08:52 PM

I towed a flatbed with 4K worth of boulders on it and never got my tranny gauge to move up at all. I manually shifted it though and kept it in 4th gear max (even on the flats). My buddy's F-SuperDuty shifts a lot when he tows uphill in OD so he has to take it out of OD and this is with a Power Stroke.
- Nealio

**HudsonValleyTitan** · 07-19-2005, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by skyhammer

HVT; You can't compare the little hills in New England to the the real mountains out west. Drive you rig out west to the Sierra Nevada's, Cascades, Rockies etc. You will change the way you think about leaving the Titan in Fourth gear only. There are no real mountains east of the Mississippi.

That may be but nobody here is claiming they're climbing Mt Everest, and they're still self shifting and claiming trannys are overheating. Regardless of who's mountains are bigger, steeper, etc, roads on any of them will only be so steep, so I doubt there are too many much steeper than the ones we have right here in the NY, PA, or MA. I've been on some loooong steep upgrades and haven't had any hunting or shifting problems. Using TOW mode and 4th works perfectly. I don't care if you're on the side of a mountain, the tranny should be in the proper gear for the climb. If not, I don't know what to tell you. It works without shifting it manually.
Why do we have the ability to shift manually? Mainly for low traction purposes....off-road, snow, sand etc.

skyhammer · 07-19-2005, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by HudsonValleyTitan

That may be but nobody here is claiming they're climbing Mt Everest, and they're still self shifting and claiming trannys are overheating. Regardless of who's mountains are bigger, steeper, etc, roads on any of them will only be so steep, so I doubt there are too many much steeper than the ones we have right here in the NY, PA, or MA. I've been on some loooong steep upgrades and haven't had any hunting or shifting problems. Using TOW mode and 4th works perfectly. I don't care if you're on the side of a mountain, the tranny should be in the proper gear for the climb. If not, I don't know what to tell you. It works without shifting it manually.
Why do we have the ability to shift manually? Mainly for low traction purposes....off-road, snow, sand etc.

I respecfully completely disagree.

**HudsonValleyTitan** · 07-19-2005, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by skyhammer

I respecfully completely disagree.

I guess it's a personal thing on how we each drive and use our trucks. If we all agreed, this forum would be a bore-fest. I too, respect your opinion.

Big-J · 07-19-2005, 01:00 PM

I'm back from a Pismo Trip.. 7-16-05

227 total miles from Fontana to Pismo SVRA.
Avg. 9 MPG.
total weight was about 9000-9250 Lbs (tounge weight about 900-950)
Went up some pretty steep hills.
had to use 3rd gear and 2nd gear at times.
On my way back; that steep hill coming from Oxnard (Conejo Grade) had to use 2nd gear, 40mph 4-4.5 Thousand RPM's
The Titan pulled the FB2600 pretty well but I just think its a little too much for this truck for long distances and steep grades like the Cajon Pass up the 15 and the grade on the 5fwy going to Gorman. We shall see how it does going up Cajon pass later on this year. Going to Gorman soon (steep grades on the 5 fwy)
Due to the Gas Mileage being so bad and the frequency of my trips I might look into a getting a Big Diesel Hauler like a HD2500 4x4 Chevy Duramax or something like that.
I dont like the idea of 2nd Gear at 40 mph with the rpm's at 4000+
I had it in tow mode, started up the hill in 4th, went to third as long as I could, temp gague went up real fast, dropped into 2nd and the gague dropped, hauled right up.
Anyway... I love my Titan and wanted to keep it but I might due something down the road when push comes to shove.

We shall see....

I will keep posting new trips with the Titan and let you all know.

-Best!

Jason

DeTitan · 07-19-2005, 01:45 PM

For a work horse, there is nothing like a diesel engine. I like the sports car type handling of the titan and expected the body work and frame to be a bit more robust that it is.

Just put in 1600 plus miles and am starting to see the little build and design problems coming to surface UG. Wish the diesels had the VDC and ABLS technology.

cttitan · 07-19-2005, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HudsonValleyTitan

That may be but nobody here is claiming they're climbing Mt Everest, and they're still self shifting and claiming trannys are overheating. Regardless of who's mountains are bigger, steeper, etc, roads on any of them will only be so steep, so I doubt there are too many much steeper than the ones we have right here in the NY, PA, or MA. I've been on some loooong steep upgrades and haven't had any hunting or shifting problems. Using TOW mode and 4th works perfectly. I don't care if you're on the side of a mountain, the tranny should be in the proper gear for the climb. If not, I don't know what to tell you. It works without shifting it manually.
Why do we have the ability to shift manually? Mainly for low traction purposes....off-road, snow, sand etc.

I'm with HVT here. I've pulled my trailer all over the place from here to there and back again and just put it in 4th and it works fine. The only time I have ever really needed to down shift is when I'm going down the other side of the hill to use the engine to help braking.

Try spending a hot summer day with temps in the mid 90's pulling your trailer up the length of Hwy 49 on the western slopes of the sierras. That is a true test of the Titans capabilities and it passed with flying colors.

skyhammer · 07-19-2005, 02:44 PM

You made your point for me. Highway 49 is in the foothills of the Sierras. Besides that the hishway 49 is a highway where you can keep up some speed. Try dricing out to the Mattole Valley. Top speed maybe 25mph. Many places you have to slow down to under 10mph to make the switchbacks. 45 miles up and 45 miles down, 1st and second gear all the way. Put the Titan in 4th gear and that will be the end of your tranny.

skyhammer · 07-19-2005, 02:45 PM

You made your point for me. Highway 49 is in the foothills of the Sierras. Besides that the highway 49 is a highway where you can keep up some speed. Try driving out to the Mattole Valley. Top speed maybe 25mph. Many places you have to slow down to under 10mph to make the switchbacks. 45 miles up and 45 miles down, 1st and second gear all the way. Put the Titan in 4th gear and that will be the end of your tranny.

**HudsonValleyTitan** · 07-19-2005, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by skyhammer

You made your point for me. Highway 49 is in the foothills of the Sierras. Besides that the highway 49 is a highway where you can keep up some speed. Try driving out to the Mattole Valley. Top speed maybe 25mph. Many places you have to slow down to under 10mph to make the switchbacks. 45 miles up and 45 miles down, 1st and second gear all the way. Put the Titan in 4th gear and that will be the end of your tranny.

Ok...lol..now I have to respectfully completely disagree here. What would make you think that the senario you posted wouldbe the "end of your tranny"? When you slow down to the 10 MPH as you mention, your tranny will downshift accordingly. That's why its' called an automatic. The only thing that kills a tranny is lack of fluid or one that's not properly cared for. Even excessive hunting, although annoying, doen't mean a fried transmission. I've had mine go down to 2nd gear going up a particular hill....screamed like crazy....until it then upshifted. Won't hurt a thing AND....that alone should not cause overheating in a healthy transmission.

Armada · 07-19-2005, 05:42 PM

I agree with HVT. Fourth is 1:1. And it will downshift when needed. It just won't upshift into overdrive if it's in fourth - it's overdrive that can kill the tranny, not 1:1 gearing and auto downshifting.

Now, if you get in the steep stuff and want to keep rpm at or close to peak torque, so it does not downshift or hunt so much, you might choose to put it in 3 or even 2 to keep rpm up between 2,500 and 3,500 or so (peak torque is at around 4,000), then go right ahead. But you don't have to, as it will downshift.

I tow an 8,000 lb. equipment trailer with farm tractor, disc, etc., but it is on mostly level ground. It is hot here in Mississippi - 90's regularly. I tow in 4th. No problem.

cttitan · 07-20-2005, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by skyhammer

You made your point for me. Highway 49 is in the foothills of the Sierras. Besides that the hishway 49 is a highway where you can keep up some speed. Try dricing out to the Mattole Valley. Top speed maybe 25mph. Many places you have to slow down to under 10mph to make the switchbacks. 45 miles up and 45 miles down, 1st and second gear all the way. Put the Titan in 4th gear and that will be the end of your tranny.

A lot of Hwy 49 is like this also. Very winding and sharp steep turns and with a trailer in tow you are really going slow and pulling hard on a lot of them. Anyhow, have a blast driving your Titan and I'll do the same...... in 4th.....