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Old 10-17-2004, 05:24 PM   #1
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Rear sag while towing......

The only complaint I had while towing this weekend was the sag in the rear end. What can I do to combat this? I have the load leveler hitch and sway control. I don't know if they are all the same or not, but I had the load leveler on the 3rd chain link(people towing will understand) but the back end was still down a little. The sag was not unbearable by any means and it did not effect the towing @ all, but when I put my quad in the bed of the truck while towing I am afreaid that I will have problems. Anyone have any suggestions? I was thinking Hellwig load leveler's or airbags or something. I would like it to be near stock while towing.

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I'd try taking one more link out and see what it would do, I also use the third link but my truck levels out, course my camper is only 22 ft.
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Yeah mines a 26'. I had it on the 3rd link and it looked like it had an upwards bend near the end. If I go up one more link is it going to hurt the bars @ all? Does adjusting the hitch help? It's an adjustable hitch up and down.
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by upward bend I assume your talking about the bars? If so that would be ok, my bars have a bend in them also. I like mine pretty tight.
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Cool, next time I tow it I will try that. Thanks.

If that does not work, does anyone have any experience with helper springs or airbags?

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Old 10-18-2004, 10:41 AM   #6
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Anyone else have any suggestions if this does not work. Ideally I would like to stay stock height while towing so I can do the front leveling kit and not have it look bad.
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I had my camper loaded up this weekend (19' hybrid) with about 500 pounds in the truck bed (generator, gas, coolers, etc) and with my load leveling hitch my truck only sagged 1". I was actually amazed. It was like a dream compared to my Frontier! I don't use a chain style w/d hitch though. Mine is a solid bar style, I don't know what brand, it was part of the "package" when I bought my camper.
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Lightbulb Think of it all as a system

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Yeah mines a 26'. I had it on the 3rd link and it looked like it had an upwards bend near the end. If I go up one more link is it going to hurt the bars @ all? Does adjusting the hitch help? It's an adjustable hitch up and down.
D,

You have to look at the truck and trailer as a complete system and work from there:

First: measure to the top of the frame at the trailer wheels. Then set your hitch so that if all was perfect, the front of the frame would be within an inch of that point. Usually, that's the top of the ball. You HAVE to start here or nothing else will set up right. If your hitch doesn't adjust to within an inch or so of this point, your local hitch store will sell you the accessory that will make it do so.

Second: Hook up and crank up on the spring bars. Go to a weigh station and weigh the load on the front axle versus the rear axle. They should be within about 50#. If the front axle is lighter than the rear, pick up a link on the spring bars and check it again. Sometimes -- sometimes, you can get by with measuring the fender height on front and rear (unloaded) then loaded, to get a ratio. But that's not as good nor generates as consistent a result as weighing.

Third: Most hitches have a 'tilt' adjustment so that you can set the tension on the spring bars properly. The angle is set with ordinary fender washers. You may have to tilt the hitch about 3 or 4 washers' worth to get the chains into the middle of the adjustment range.

--I tow a 6800# Arctic Fox trailer with about 800# on the hitch. It takes 5 links worth of drop to get the tension right. The load on the front axle is 50# less than on the rear. And my spring bars are just a little bent. You will also want to make sure your spring bars are rated for your hitch weight, not under. Mine are rated for 1,000#.



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Excellent, thank you.

I think my hitch is set a little low because the trailer is not level(higher in the rear than the front)
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The only complaint I had while towing this weekend was the sag in the rear end. What can I do to combat this? I have the load leveler hitch and sway control. I don't know if they are all the same or not, but I had the load leveler on the 3rd chain link(people towing will understand) but the back end was still down a little. The sag was not unbearable by any means and it did not effect the towing @ all, but when I put my quad in the bed of the truck while towing I am afreaid that I will have problems. Anyone have any suggestions? I was thinking Hellwig load leveler's or airbags or something. I would like it to be near stock while towing.

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first make sure your hitch is the right height and tilt. Very important.

Then crank it up. I don't remember what link I am on, but I do remember that I had to really crank it up. I have a SE Off Road and I towed with 2 dirt bikes in back and trailer and again, I really had to crank it.
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Hellwig or airsprings?
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people pulling heavy boats with surge brakes need something in the rear end to increase support. does anyone have experience with air bags or hellwig leafs?
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I think I am going to go with airbags in the rear.
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