Our Payload rating isn't so bad.

[Mike Up]

Dodge Ram 1500 SLT CC 4X4 is 1420lbs with 4.7L and ~1270lbs with Hemi.

Ford F150 XLT CC 4X4 is 1530lbs with 5.4L and 1320lbs with the 4.6L.

Dodge's SLT 1500 and Ford's F150 don't have a standard transmission oil cooler or power seats.

'04 Titan SE CC 4X4 has payload of 1411lbs, but has oil cooler, power pedals, overhead console, and power seats standard. All of those features are omitted on the Dodge 1500 SLT and Ford F150 XLT. There's some weight right there in standard features. So the Dodge after comparibly featured, has less payload and the Ford, the same or less.

Everyone thinks our Titan's payload is bad, but not when you compare to other 1/2 ton trucks. All of their payloads are lacking compared to the 3/4 ton models.

Ironically, the Toyota Tundra CC 4X4 looks like it has the highest payload by ~150lbs - 200lbs more than the Titan SE CC 4X4.

So be happy, while our payload is only average, it's not smaller than average.

Have a good one.

[mudfinder]

the dodge ram slt and the titan se are same level. the ram laramie is the titan le. i beleive that the titan se has more features than the laramie, the fully loaded ram.

i personally thought that the titan had the lowest payload cap. but after looking at the other truck ratings, the titan has much more than the dodge and the ford. the titan is turning out to be a real work horse. too bad the beds on the cc are small.

[tnbowhunter]

I agree, I also think that our payload capacities are underrated. Why? I have no idea, but I have personally put 1800 lbs in my truck, did it squat? yeah, but not as much as you would think and not as much as some other trucks that I have owned with a more generous payload rating. Of course I only had to drive 30 miles and only got up to 50 mph.
I say put what you want back there, [use common sense of course] and let er rip.

[HavockWK]

Check out the ratings for the Silverado. over 2000lb.

[HudsonValleyTitan]

The SE CC 4X4 has a posted payload capacity of 1453LBS. 1585 for the CC 4X2 and wow......1640 for a 4X2 KC. None of those numbers are bad at all. Most folks won't put that much in their beds but....their as good or better than the competitions 1/2 tons.

[Mike Up]

Originally Posted by HavockWK

Check out the ratings for the Silverado. over 2000lb.

The 2005 Silverado has a max of 1701lbs of payload 'only' with the crew cab which has a GVWR of 7000lbs. Extended cabs have a 6400lb GVWR and their payload is significantly less.

So a 1500 Silverado LS CC 4X4 has a payload of 1701lbs. It includes all features that the Titan CC 4X4 has except power seats and transmission oil cooler, as the others. So it beats the 2004 Titan's payload by 190lbs if power seats are 10lbs, transmission oil cooler is 90lbs.

2005 Toyota Tundra Limited CC 4X4 has a payload of 1580lbs. It includes everything the 2004 Titan CC 4X4 does except a transmission oil cooler. So it's payload is 79lbs more than the Titan's considering if the transmission oil cooler is 90lbs.

So as I said, we have an average payload, but not the smallest.

BTW, where did you find a 2000lb payload spec for a Silverado?

Also, the Silverado isn't rated to use a Fifth Wheel hitch unless you go up the HD package which adds a longer 6 1/2' bed opposed to the standard duties 5 1/2' bed (as our CC 5 1/2' bed).

I personally would never own any POS GM product. While I'm not excited about Ford, I may go back once they clean up their ethics policy of hiding deadly safety defects.

Have a good one.

[Mike Up]

I'm actually glad now that I didn't go with a Dodge Ram, by the time it was featured out like my truck it would had been under 1000lbs of payload.

Starting payload of 1270lbs (-150lbs from the standard 4.7L payload of 1420lbs) with the Hemi. Add 115lbs for transmission oil cooler and hitch. Add 35lbs for tonneau cover. Add 123lbs for step rails. Add 89lbs for Off-Road package and bedliner (My truck lost this weight for the added features of bigger tires, fog lights, lower gearing, skid plates, drop-in bedliner, etc). Your new payload for this 2005 1500 RAM CC 4X4 is 908lbs, pathetic. My Titan CC 4X4 XE's usable payload is 1181lbs right now. That's 273lbs more than the Dodge Ram.

BTW, the 1500 Dodge Ram CC 4X4 only has a max GVWR of 6650lbs so the Hemi option doesn't upgrade the GVWR to account for the extra weight of the engine. Very disappointing. I'd say about every CC 4X4 1500 RAM Hemi that's pulling a moderate size trailer must be overweight.

Oh yeh, add a 175lb truck cap on the Ram and now your limited to just hauling people because you've exhausted all of your payload capacity.

Have a good one.

[HavockWK]

Originally Posted by Mike Up

BTW, where did you find a 2000lb payload spec for a Silverado?

I remembered the number from when I was looking at the capacities while researching for akangl's questions about payload capacities. I didn't remember exactly which model was which, just that I had seen a 1500 over 2000lb and the 1500HD over 3000lb.

If you look at the chart you posted:

You see that the reg cab long box is actually 2040lb. So, my bad for not matching the cab style.

[HudsonValleyTitan]

The Silerado in 4X4 CC SB (like my Titan) is very close. Titan- 1453 Cheby- 1701. Not enough to even mention.
The Dodge HEMI 1500 tows way to much less for me to have even thought about.

[skyhammer]

Well, I think the payload rating that Nissan gives is pitiful. It is less than 200lbs. more than my 85 Toyota. Although I agree with TNBOWHUNTER that the Titan carry more than that. I have no problems carrying 1600lbs. when I carry a 2000lb. pallet of wood pellets I must be careful.

[VShortt]

It certainly suits my needs just fine.

[Mike Up]

Originally Posted by HudsonValleyTitan

The Silerado in 4X4 CC SB (like my Titan) is very close. Titan- 1453 Cheby- 1701. Not enough to even mention.
The Dodge HEMI 1500 tows way to much less for me to have even thought about.

As I said the ratings are even closer because Chevy LS's weight doesn't include a transmission oil cooler or power seats since these are options. The Titan "SE's" weight does include the transmission oil cooler and power seats since these are standard. So the Chevy's payload is more like 1601lbs compared to the 2004 Titan SE's 1411lbs.

A Crew Cab Titan XE with standard oil cooler is 1453lbs as you said, to the Chevy's 1611lbs if you add a transmission oil cooler to it, so you have an apples to apples comparison. Now your at only at 158lbs of difference.

Since 2005 Titans include a back power window which adds a weight loss, it's hard to compare to other trucks that don't have that option.

IMO, all 1/2 ton Crew Cab (and some extended cabs) trucks are much to low in payload. They should had added GVWR to account for the extra weight of a crew cab plus the additional people that are going to be seated in them. Of course, this is all taken care of if you go with a 3/4 ton truck (which is what a 1/2 ton HD is, just with fewer HD additional options).

I guess I should had compared to the XE CC as the other trucks more closely match the XE CC features.

2004 5.6L Nissan Titan CC 4X4 XE = 1453lbs
2005 5.3L Chevy 1500 CC 4X4 SL = 1611lbs*
2005 5.7L Dodge 1500 CC 4X4 SLT = ~1180lbs*
2005 5.4L Ford F150 CC 4X4 XLT = 1440lbs*
2005 4.7L Toyota Tundra CC 4X4 SR5 = 1490lbs*

* Includes additional weight of 90lbs for transmission oil cooler.

BTW, my payload rating sticker on the door frame says my payload rating is 1364lbs. That's as delivered with my factory options listed in my signature.

Have a good one.

[Mike Up]

Originally Posted by HavockWK

You see that the reg cab long box is actually 2040lb. So, my bad for not matching the cab style.

Thought that's what you were referencing but didn't know for sure.

Have a good one.

[Squid]

How many people who don't tow really even care what the numbers say?
I've never found myself sitting at the Co-op or Lowes with my calculator out figuring the load. (I know at times I should. )

I think they need to have sensors wired in to tell you the weight of the load and whether it's balanced. Kind of like what they have on airliners.

MikeH could have used them.

[Mike Up]

Originally Posted by Squid

How many people who don't tow really even care what the numbers say?
I've never found myself sitting at the coop or lowes with my calculator out figureing the load.

I think they need to have sensors wired in to tell you the weight of the load and whether it's balanced. Kind of like what they have on airliners.

To be honest, I really never thought about payload and GVWR on none commercial trucks. It's only after several threads here that got me thinking and I was disappointed. After finding out what other 1/2 tons offer as payload, I'm disappointed in all of the 1/2 ton Crew Cab truck market. I would expect them to bump up GVWR so that the payload is the same as a Regular cab, long bed truck. Then again, I won't worry about going over 200lbs over as that's just "1" person more sitting in it.

With the space of the Titan, it's safe to say with hunters/fishermen, you may be cramming at least 4 or 5 people in this truck, weighing a total of 1000lbs. I have big friends. Add a 4000lb TT or boat with gear to my truck (which has an estimated 1181lbs of payload) and I'm overweight. With the seating size and the low 4000lb weight compared to a 9500 max tow capacity, this truck as loaded, would logically seem loaded light to what you would think it should handle.

I talked to a fellow Titan owner a few days ago. We were talking about trailer towing and I mention GVWR. The guy thought he could pull 9500lbs with the truck full of people and gear. In honesty, I use to think the same until I found out how lightweight these 1/2 ton truck's GVWRs are. Hek, the new midsize trucks match these 1/2 ton payloads.

Have a good one.