Best helper springs for ride and hauling? - Page 2

ptgarcia · 12-19-2006, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by gerry

Does anybody know if i put a u-bolt on the front and rear leaf spring would it stop the axle warp from happening or just mount one on the front part of the leaf spring instead of putting a leaf spring helper.

Sure it will help, but it will make for a stiff ride. If you clamp the springs down they can't work as designed.

sudden urge · 12-19-2006, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by gerry

Does anybody know if i put a u-bolt on the front and rear leaf spring would it stop the axle warp from happening or just mount one on the front part of the leaf spring instead of putting a leaf spring helper.

You would only need 1 clamp at the front part of the spring where that 5/8" spring gap is. That will preload the spring and eliminate the axle wrap, but it also harshens the ride and lowers the rear by a 1/2".

gerry · 12-19-2006, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sudden urge

You would only need 1 clamp at the front part of the spring where that 5/8" spring gap is. That will preload the spring and eliminate the axle wrap, but it also harshens the ride and lowers the rear by a 1/2".

thanks for the input i did end up puting one u bolt on the front part of the spring but i still have a little of axle warp

bestatchess · 12-19-2006, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by gerry

thanks for the input i did end up puting one u bolt on the front part of the spring but i still have a little of axle warp

I took off the $22 helpers and put on the Deaver 1" mini-pack in place of the overload leaf. I am not noticing any axle wrap and the ride is much softer.

http://www.prgproducts.com/images/pr...comparison.jpg

blueskys · 12-23-2006, 08:38 PM

I have had the Roadmaster Active Suspension on for about half a year now. I like it.
It does more than just help overload. It helps control also. And the rear axle glides over bumps real soft like. Installation was simple. The only downer was, I needed to remove the rubber roller over the leaf spring to install. It turned out to be no big deal though. 200 bucks online.

jbone · 12-23-2006, 08:52 PM

I had the Roadmaster Active Suspension on a Tundra for about 2 years.Workrd great.Cant wait to install on the Titan.

adamsrk · 12-27-2006, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ptgarcia

You only need 5 p.s.i. minimum in the bag at all times, unless the Titan-specific bag is different.

Yep, it even came with a sticker that says 10 psi Min

**RobKar** · 12-28-2006, 12:08 AM

I have the AirLift bags ... work great with the TT attached

The Ride has improved

Wiscdave · 01-08-2007, 09:50 AM

Never reported on this thread my desicion: I went with the Hellwigs and the difference was instant. Back end came up about .5 to 1 inch unloaded and with the wheeler in the back or a load of wood it has 0 sag (wood could weight 1,000lbs ). I have them pretty tight and will probably adjust them in the spring when things thaw out and try playing with different settings, right now the nuts are way up the u bolts. Towing is nice and right on, with the rear end bounceyness (if that is a word) is all but gone loaded. I like to put my 600lb wheeler in the back while towing my 4500 boat and before it would be maxed out on the springs appearing flat. Where now its right on with better braking control and steering feel as the weight is kept on the front wheels, instead of the back end making the front end stand straight up and people flash me at night thinking I have my brights on. Unloaded the ride is still softer than the offroad titans and with over a 1/2 tank of gas unnoticable. Next on the list tires and possible lift.

Derwud · 01-08-2007, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Wiscdave

Never reported on this thread my desicion: I went with the Hellwigs and the difference was instant. Back end came up about .5 to 1 inch unloaded and with the wheeler in the back or a load of wood it has 0 sag (wood could weight 1,000lbs ). I have them pretty tight and will probably adjust them in the spring when things thaw out and try playing with different settings, right now the nuts are way up the u bolts. Towing is nice and right on, with the rear end bounceyness (if that is a word) is all but gone loaded. I like to put my 600lb wheeler in the back while towing my 4500 boat and before it would be maxed out on the springs appearing flat. Where now its right on with better braking control and steering feel as the weight is kept on the front wheels, instead of the back end making the front end stand straight up and people flash me at night thinking I have my brights on. Unloaded the ride is still softer than the offroad titans and with over a 1/2 tank of gas unnoticable. Next on the list tires and possible lift.

Where did you get them from and do you have a part number?

Wiscdave · 01-08-2007, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Derwud

Where did you get them from and do you have a part number?

[SIZE=2]1517N Nissan 2004-06 Titan - 1500 lbs helper springs (pair) $149.95

http://www.suspensionconnection.com/...con/1517N.html

Suspension connection had the best price and fast shipping. [SIZE=2]
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g356gear · 01-10-2007, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by bestatchess

I took off the $22 helpers and put on the Deaver 1" mini-pack in place of the overload leaf. I am not noticing any axle wrap and the ride is much softer.

http://www.prgproducts.com/images/pr...comparison.jpg

That's what I was going to say....get a set of Deavers from PRG. They will make a huge difference.

JAM21 · 01-15-2007, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by gerry

Does anybody know if i put a u-bolt on the front and rear leaf spring would it stop the axle warp from happening or just mount one on the front part of the leaf spring instead of putting a leaf spring helper.

I too have the Roadmaster Active Suspension kit on my 05 King Cab. I am pulling a 30' 5th wheel with about 1100 lbs in the bed when towing. Works great! When bed is empty, get original ride. Did the install myself in less than 2 hours. Google Roadmaster Active Suspension for prices.

SirStrider · 01-15-2007, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JAM21

I too have the Roadmaster Active Suspension kit on my 05 King Cab. I am pulling a 30' 5th wheel with about 1100 lbs in the bed when towing. Works great! When bed is empty, get original ride. Did the install myself in less than 2 hours. Google Roadmaster Active Suspension for prices.

Does it use airbags? 2 or 4? How do they hold up - sounds like a nice system. I need some work on mine for sure - looking at sway bar, traction bars, everything. Just put a Timbren SES on as an emergency patch for my long trip - I'm on vacatation. Seems to help with load, but not with axel wrap.

blueskys · 01-19-2007, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SirStrider

Does it use airbags? 2 or 4? How do they hold up - sounds like a nice system. I need some work on mine for sure - looking at sway bar, traction bars, everything. Just put a Timbren SES on as an emergency patch for my long trip - I'm on vacatation. Seems to help with load, but not with axel wrap.

I also have a heavy ARE shell on my KC Titan. I installed the RM active suspension to help with the sag when fully loaded with dive gear. It works. It works well without a compromise in ride quality. The kit preloads your leaf springs and adds capacity to absorb the little bumps without rebound. This makes for a smooth ride. What other kit can you buy that increases capacity and ride quality?
The are no airbags. It is a coil spring that is adjustable to suit your needs.