Big Tow towing vs. non-big tow - Page 2

Aquaholic · 03-20-2007, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerry Selkowitz

I have a 06 KC with Nissan installed tow bar and Leer cap. I have a 29 foot Rockwood trailer 6700 empty. I just completed our first trip from Myrtle Beach to Lake Worth Fla. and back, 1400 miles- no Big Tow and had no problems pulling with a Reese Hitch. Got between 9-11 mpg using cruise @ 60 mph. Truck had plenty of power to haul the load on I-95

Let's go hit the 138 to Palmdale and see you try to go 60 towing that trailer. I went up it at 60 on thursday, at 5500 rpm, with tow package.

Nascarman · 03-20-2007, 10:20 AM

Ok,

Actually it was Nissan service that told me to add tranny cooler, etc and that we could pull 9500. So are we suggesting that they don't know their product? I am confused. All I want to do is tow a camper with a dry weight of about 6k. I will ask again: What are you guys out there without the tow package towing in dry weight? In campers in particular?

JerBob · 03-20-2007, 10:47 AM

I have a 26' Coachmen TT that weighs around 7000# with all of the gear in it for a trip. I have had no problems towing it around, but I have the tow package.

I have heard that you should not exceed 80% of the tow rating for the total weight when towing. If my math is correct, 80% of 7500# is right around 6000#.

**loufish** · 03-20-2007, 09:42 PM

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Actually it was Nissan service that told me to add tranny cooler, etc and that we could pull 9500. So are we suggesting that they don't know their product? I am confused.

That's correct, they don't know their own product!!
ALL Titans have 2 factory trans coolers, one is the same type that uses the radiator like every other auto trans car and truck, and the second is an aux cooler like the type you would buy and install for towing.

If you have not bought the truck, try to find one that has the Tow Package, it's that simple You can't "cobble" a package togather that will match all the features, and re-sale will be better.

kellyj00 · 03-21-2007, 07:07 AM

tow package has the mirrors, the bigger rear gear and a hitch.

**loufish** · 03-21-2007, 06:50 PM

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tow package has the mirrors, the bigger rear gear and a hitch.

AND a factory trans temp gauge! Not some plastic Pep-Boys looking thing that you have to drill into the dash to mount...

gmsnowball · 03-22-2007, 09:48 PM

When loaded with the C5 Corvette and dirt bike on the car hauler with spare tires, tools etc in the rear of my 04 2WD LE with tow package (mode button) squats a little causing my lights to appear to be on high beam. What is a better fix, air bag suspension or a weight distribution tow hitch with sway bar

**Carbeaux** · 03-22-2007, 09:51 PM

You need the W/D hitch to tow over 5000 lbs. So you probably need that AND the bags.

Nascarman · 03-22-2007, 10:42 PM

Just an update guys. I really don't think Nissan knows their product. I called another service department(a Nissan one) for comparison purposes and this guy told me that a package that costs right around $400 could be installed to boost tow capacity on our SE non tow titan to the full 9500. But, He said it could not be done on the XE's. It really makes me mad that there is such confusion over this truck. We will add whatever we can to the truck to help keep it cool, but we don't plan on pulling more than 6k. We may even go to a HD truck. This may have been our first and only Titan. We love the truck, but Nissan and its sales people need to get their act together. Telling customers that every nissan on the lot can tow 9500 #'s is just pure crap.

Thanks for all the input..Have a great weekend..

J

kellyj00 · 03-23-2007, 06:42 AM

plain and simple, the 4.10 drivetrain can handle 9,500 lbs.
the smaller gear can handle 7,500 lbs.

If you have CC or 4x4 it lowers it because those options are heavier in the truck. If you want 9,500 lbs, you'll just need a new ring/pinion gear in the back.

Personally, I would find the VIN code that means 4.10 axle and find a wrecked titan at a junkyard... or you could just ask your nissan service department to change it out.... either just the gear or the whole rear end.

Googling came up with this article, it gives some info.

"We had the guys at Dynatrac set ours up with 4.56:1 gearing from Yukon Gear. We left the diff carrier open for now because industry buzz at the time suggested that a totally new electric locker was nearing production from Detroit Locker. More on that in a future article. "

http://www.fourwheeler.com/projectbu...ing_front_ifs/

watch the spacing, that's a link. I really don't know a damned thing about replacing gears or diffs, but I want to be helpful if I can.

**loufish** · 03-23-2007, 05:45 PM

This is sooo simple:

The tow package has lower gears giving you the 9500lb tow rating....PERIOD.

The engine cooling is the same for ALL Titans..as already stated several times...
The tranny cooling is the same for ALL Titans...as already stated several times...

Mirrors, gauges, bigger battery, won't increase the tow rating!

You want the 9500 lb tow rating? Get a truck with Tow Package...Even if you find a junk yard rear end, the PCM would also need to be changed.

DONE...

StuntDriver06 · 03-23-2007, 05:53 PM

if youre gonna tow heavy loads, or tow frequently... get teh tow package, but with the non tow package titan i had, i towed an enclosed u-haul trailer weighing in at around 4000lbs from atlantic beach, NC to orlando Florida and back, averaged 9.2mpg running 85-90 mph, no probs, plenty of power, i used an infrared thermometer at fuel stops, tranny was around 175, rear end around 170... did great, but wouldnt want to do it too often........

efundcamp · 03-23-2007, 06:37 PM

If you spend the extra money on the tow package now you will have forgotten about that money in a few days. If you try to save a few dollars you will wish for many years that you had spent that money.When your spending that much money on a truck you should get everything you want and not settle just to save a few dollars.

StuntDriver06 · 03-23-2007, 06:42 PM

i agree..... besides, the tow package is only 450 dollars.... 450 dollars for all this:

• Class IV receiver hitch
• Additional 7-pin wiring harness plug
• Trailer brake controller pre-wiring under instrument panel
• Heavy-duty battery (710 CCA)
• Lower final gear ratio (3.36:1); similar to 4.10:1 on a 4-speed automatic
• Extendable tow mirrors (N/A on XE)
• Transmission temperature gauge
• Increased tow capacity

its a no brainer in my opinion...

UWSkier · 03-28-2007, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by StuntDriver06

i agree..... besides, the tow package is only 450 dollars.... 450 dollars for all this:

• Class IV receiver hitch
• Additional 7-pin wiring harness plug
• Trailer brake controller pre-wiring under instrument panel
• Heavy-duty battery (710 CCA)
• Lower final gear ratio (3.36:1); similar to 4.10:1 on a 4-speed automatic
• Extendable tow mirrors (N/A on XE)
• Transmission temperature gauge
• Increased tow capacity

its a no brainer in my opinion...

Don't forget snappier acceleration and a torquier feel when you blip the throttle.