My understanding (fwiw,) from Nissan literature; the BT package, with the 3:36 gearing compares to the 4:10 in terms of final drive ratio, or actual end results where the rubber meets the road.
If that's true then the only "apples to apples" comparison would be the 5.7 Chevy, (die chebby die,) or the 6.0 HD with the 4:10 rear. I had an 04 HD with 6.0/4:10 drivetrain, and it rated comparable torque @ 405 ft lbs. (does Chevy make a 5.3 with 4:10? I think they may still make a WT 5.7 with 4:10?)
Anyway, forget MPG....that beyatch about killed me. I drove from Murfreesboro to Bowling Green every day for 4 months (big job,) at $75 per day in gas. Towing, or anything above 60mph got me like 8mpg. Towing an 8 Series Skid Loader got me like 4. Otherwise a good truck, towed like a champ, but the 1/2 ton Chevy I got next was a total worthless POS canadian/mexican POS *&$%# POS die chebby die. but I digress....
I get 12.7 empty babying the throttle around town and interstate both. (set cruise at 65 from cookeville to nashville.) I just turn off that annoying mpg thing, pretend like it gets alot more than it does and write it off at year's end. And I hug trees and pet kitties a lot to clear my conscience.
Hell I have a hard time driving 3 hours without stopping. I am sorry, I just do see a 5.3 getting 4mpg better towing the same load. Maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt it.
i agree i helped my friend move from phoenix az to las vegas nv and th had an03 gmc sierra w/ a 5.3 we were towing a 1998 nissan sentra an a 14 ft flat bed trailer and his trucks tranny was all over the place...
there is now dbout in my mind that a 5.3 w/ a 4 speed will get better milage, but 4mpg better than a titan w 5 speed towing 3000 lbs seems a little far out... either way good luck on your trucks no matter what you go w/
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2006 SE CC 4x4 OR BT
AEM BruteForce CAI
Airraid TBS
Banks exhaust
2* TA
TB-Bypass
Leveled out
Smoked tail lights
Dark tint(Real Dark!!!)
Motometal 951s
Nitto Terragrapplers 325/60/18
Last edited by BlingAlong06; 12-24-2007 at 10:42 AM.
I take these to Colorado and other areas to offroad. I need a truck that can pull around 6000lbs (Jeep and trailer), a good load for a gas motor, but not enough to demand a diesel. The Titan pulls great, but it wasn't so astounding that I could over look 11mpg pulling 2 fourwheelers.
FYI, Lil Timmy is a nick name given to me by my older sister. I'm 6'1 260lbs. I'd look a little odd in a mid size truck.
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I take these to Colorado and other areas to offroad. I need a truck that can pull around 6000lbs (Jeep and trailer), a good load for a gas motor, but not enough to demand a diesel. The Titan pulls great, but it wasn't so astounding that I could over look 11mpg pulling 2 fourwheelers.
FYI, Lil Timmy is a nick name given to me by my older sister. I'm 6'1 260lbs. I'd look a little odd in a mid size truck.
^^^^^^hahaha^^^^^^^ right..
i came back from the sand dunes yesterday pulling a 16 ft flat bed w/ 3 raptor 700 atvs on it and averages 11.3....i also have a 4x4 CC w/ big tires and wheels...i drove about 72 mph...but i would say your right in the ballpark w/ all of us that tow
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2006 SE CC 4x4 OR BT
AEM BruteForce CAI
Airraid TBS
Banks exhaust
2* TA
TB-Bypass
Leveled out
Smoked tail lights
Dark tint(Real Dark!!!)
Motometal 951s
Nitto Terragrapplers 325/60/18
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2006 Titan SE
4X2 Crew Cab
Majestic Blue!
Mods:Westin Bull-Bar, Grounding Kit, FramBoost2,
JBA Cats Back, Throttle Body Spacer, 2° Advance,
Extang Trifecta Signature Series, Armada Air Dam,
Hellwig Rear Anti Roll Sway Bar, Street Scene Grille,
Lund Bug Deflector. OEM Fog Lights, PRG Shackles,
Seres LED tails, HyperTech Max Energy, Black Door
Handles, 3rd LED Brake Light, ...More to Come!
AKA: The Hijack King™
AKA: The Troll Hunter™
"Old age and treachery, will always triumph over youth and skill."
an you have to think... an enclosed trailer is not shaped like a rocket..its more like a block wall... there is lots of wind resistance
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2006 SE CC 4x4 OR BT
AEM BruteForce CAI
Airraid TBS
Banks exhaust
2* TA
TB-Bypass
Leveled out
Smoked tail lights
Dark tint(Real Dark!!!)
Motometal 951s
Nitto Terragrapplers 325/60/18
Hell I have a hard time driving 3 hours without stopping. I am sorry, I just do see a 5.3 getting 4mpg better towing the same load. Maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt it.
I just drove 15 solid hours. I only stop for gas: eat, drink, use the restroom while the tank is getting filled and go. Everyone has their own opinion on trucks, that's why there are 5 big companies making them (I don't count the Honda Ridgeline or the Mitsu Raider). Am I so pissed that I'm going to go out and trade it today, no. I'll keep this truck for a year or two, get it paid down and buy something else. Might even get a diesel next time and if I do, it'll be a Dodge (think the Cummins is the best diesel motor, crap transmissions though) I'm not stuck on any one brand of truck (I think it's funny that some people still argue that a GMC is better than a Chevy or visa versa). I just want a truck that fits my needs the best.
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Nismo CAI
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2*timming advance - Thanks Toomnymods
I just drove 15 solid hours. I only stop for gas: eat, drink, use the restroom while the tank is getting filled and go. Everyone has their own opinion on trucks, that's why there are 5 big companies making them (I don't count the Honda Ridgeline or the Mitsu Raider). Am I so pissed that I'm going to go out and trade it today, no. I'll keep this truck for a year or two, get it paid down and buy something else. Might even get a diesel next time and if I do, it'll be a Dodge (think the Cummins is the best diesel motor, crap transmissions though) I'm not stuck on any one brand of truck (I think it's funny that some people still argue that a GMC is better than a Chevy or visa versa). I just want a truck that fits my needs the best.
And you will get crap milage with all of them!!!
get over it!!
Done!!
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2006 Titan SE
4X2 Crew Cab
Majestic Blue!
Mods:Westin Bull-Bar, Grounding Kit, FramBoost2,
JBA Cats Back, Throttle Body Spacer, 2° Advance,
Extang Trifecta Signature Series, Armada Air Dam,
Hellwig Rear Anti Roll Sway Bar, Street Scene Grille,
Lund Bug Deflector. OEM Fog Lights, PRG Shackles,
Seres LED tails, HyperTech Max Energy, Black Door
Handles, 3rd LED Brake Light, ...More to Come!
AKA: The Hijack King™
AKA: The Troll Hunter™
"Old age and treachery, will always triumph over youth and skill."
(think the Cummins is the best diesel motor, crap transmissions though) QUOTE]
I don't think anyone will argue with this statement. Sure wish you could get a cummins in a chevy, or ford, or even better a titan.
Is Nissan trying to pick up Navistar (power stroke)? Seems like Ford has been having a bunch of problems with their new motors. I'd think they try to find another motor if they were trying to put a diesel in a Titan
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2005 Titan SE 2wd Galaxy Black Big Tow Package
Nismo CAI
Nismo Cat-Back
2*timming advance - Thanks Toomnymods
Is Nissan trying to pick up Navistar (power stroke)? Seems like Ford has been having a bunch of problems with their new motors. I'd think they try to find another motor if they were trying to put a diesel in a Titan
I don't know if they still have any plans on a diesel. I don't plan on buying another truck for many years, but if they put a cummins in the titan I would be standing in line when they opened the doors.
I'm sorry bbomar, did I hurt your feelings by not saying that the Titan was the biggest and best at everything. You don't have to respond, hell you don't even have to read this tread if you're so put out by it. I just simply wanted to voice my frustration with the mgp I got while towing a light load.
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2005 Titan SE 2wd Galaxy Black Big Tow Package
Nismo CAI
Nismo Cat-Back
2*timming advance - Thanks Toomnymods
I want to smack you dude. You're complaining because you got 18mpg.....??? and then 11mpg while towing??? This ain't no Nissan Versa. And like the difference between 11mpg and 15mpg is going to make a huge difference anyways. Maybe $60 on a 900 mile. Big whoop. Next time research a purchase before you buy a V8 truck.
And now you're going to sell the truck to buy another Chevy to save money......?? Lmao...The amount you lose on the sale added to the amount the Chevy dealership is going to rip you off could probably buy you 200 tanks of gas in the Titan.
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