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Old 01-14-2008, 05:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Unhappy I'm over my GVWR!!! Help!

So my GVWR is 6500lbs,

truck w/ gas: 5500lbs
people: 600lbs (there's 3 of us)
tongue weight: 700lbs (trailer weight: 7000lbs)

That puts me at 6800lbs, 300lbs over!

Would getting helper springs let me have a higher GVWR?

What do I need to do?
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Re: I'm over my GVWR!!! Help!

Your GVWR is dictated by the manufacturer and is mainly due to tires, springs, and axle capacity. Our frames are strong enough, and helper springs might help you handle it a little better, but weight on the axles and tires is still the same.

Now, I can't help but note that if your figures are accurrate, you are ONLY 300lbs over, and that is less than 105% of capacity, and I think you'll be OK!
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Re: I'm over my GVWR!!! Help!

I think you will be just fine with only 300 lbs. over GVWR...

Remember to drive the truck like you have a load on it..

Do you have a stabilizer hitch, trailer brakes, brake controller ????
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Re: I'm over my GVWR!!! Help!

i wouldn't stress over 300#
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Re: I'm over my GVWR!!! Help!

Cars (and I suppose many trucks) being over the RGVW, has been in the news lately.

Seems the industry thinks we all weigh 150#, so a car with 5 people should only have 750# payload. Reality is, if 225# a piece, it is 1,125#. So, many vehicles are exceeding their GVW. And then there is the luggage or groceries...
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Re: I'm over my GVWR!!! Help!

The Firestone air bags are great, but 300 lbs is nothing. If you look at the newer trucks the only difference is the bottom leaf spring is much stouter. The advantage of air bags are a level ride and smoother control and only real concern is tire rating and GCVWR. Do not loose sleep over 300lbs I don't. I am 300 lbs under FAWR and 700 Lbs over RAWR when loaded w/ trailer. My GCVWR is 900 lbs under. Now if your 600+ lbs over your RAWR then I would suggest air bags.
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Re: I'm over my GVWR!!! Help!

Although 300 lbs isn't much, I'd load everything I could from the truck to the trailer.
With a 3800 lb rear axle rating, you should still be within that...
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Re: I'm over my GVWR!!! Help!

1. Weigh your trailer, I bet you are heavier than 700lbs.
2. Are you running W/D hitch?
3. consider the air bags
and finally, follow Loufish's comments.
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Re: I'm over my GVWR!!! Help!

Thanks for the advice guys. I'm looking into buying a hitch, would this one be ok? http://www.etrailer.com/pc-WD~66074.htm , it looks pretty cheap, but it's got a great rating.

Also looking into getting some Goodyear Wrangler AT/S', and maybe some Hellwig Helper Springs.

Is this overkill? It sounds like the Weight Distribution is a must.
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Re: I'm over my GVWR!!! Help!

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would this one be ok? http://www.etrailer.com/pc-WD~66074.htm , it looks pretty cheap, but it's got a great rating.

Is this overkill? It sounds like the Weight Distribution is a must.
Do Not if you value the safety of your family and your truck buy that hitch. They are useless and lead to flip overs.

http://www.equalizerhitch.com/

This is the only hitch I would ever sell when I sold trailers. You can shop around and get it for about $400 to $ 450. For the love of all things Holy do not buy that other type.

Get some tires that are 10ply, they will ride stiffer, but have less sidewall deflections and are great for towing. With the Equal-I-Zer you will not need springs.
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Re: I'm over my GVWR!!! Help!

in florida , DOT charges .05 cents for every pound over wieght
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Re: I'm over my GVWR!!! Help!

Bhudda - why is the equalizer better than the reese wd? Which equalizer do you recommend: 4-way or weight distribution? What is bad about the reese version? Thanks to everyone so far for their advice, very helpful.

Idizzle- How do they know you're over your GVWR? When you go to the scales?
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Re: I'm over my GVWR!!! Help!

I run the Equal-I-Zer and love it.. Go to RVwholesalers. c*m for the best price.

As far as the Reese Dual Cam, I know a few people that use it and have no problem...

Get the LT tires and air bags and enjoy the your trailer!!!
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in florida , DOT charges .05 cents for every pound over wieght
When?...Where?...What are you talking about?...
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Re: I'm over my GVWR!!! Help!

The equalizer hitch is a great hitch. The reese hitch is also a good hitch and is rated highly by those folks that tow daily, as is the equalizer. All costs the same, I would probably go with the Equalizer.;
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