more advice on hauling 29' travel trailer

japtitan · 06-26-2009, 01:00 AM

Hi everyone , i own a 2006 titan Crew XE 2948KG towing cap 6500 lbs. I just bought a 29' travel trailer weighing 4888 lbs. dry. Will i be putting strain on my truck and engine? What will I need to pull it safely without hurting my truck. Also what gear do I need to pull it, obviously a hitch. (rated) ?

thanks

**loufish** · 06-26-2009, 04:10 AM

You'll be at the max....unless you plan on towing a empty trailer...

Tow in 4th gear, drop to 3rd on hills & grades...

japtitan · 06-27-2009, 09:15 PM

Can i tow the above mentioned without killing my truck?

**loufish** · 06-27-2009, 09:48 PM

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Can i tow the above mentioned without killing my truck?

Tow what?.....Why in the world would you expect anybody to know the answer to that question when you haven't told us what the trailer weighs while going down the road?

WHO cares what the empty weight is on ANY trailer, do you plan on towing it completely empty, no propane, no batteries, nothing loaded in the trailer at all?

Now that eing said, is there any other way to tell what you may or may not tow?...Maybe there's another spec out there somewhere that you CAN use for a reference...Let me think...Can you think of one?....

My sarcastic reply is because I think Ill throw up in my soup if I read one more post where somebody asks about towing an EMPTY trailer when the manufacture gives you a perfectly good spec called Gross Vehicle Weight to go be...

Why would you buy the trailer first and THEN ask this question?

japtitan · 06-27-2009, 10:11 PM

trailer weighs 4888lbs + 600 lbs. of camping goods.

**loufish** · 06-27-2009, 10:15 PM

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trailer weighs 4888lbs + 600 lbs. of camping goods.

Are you going to tell us the GVWR or not?....I can't make it any simpler...

**RobKar** · 06-28-2009, 12:48 AM

Lou is correct.

Dry weight is is just that ... No Fridge, or roof top AC units, or furniture, TV, and and ... I could go on but I wont.

My truck is an LE with big tow and I have a 29ft TT with a GVWR of 7980. I know that I am a tad over that because I weighed it on the truck scales. That said, This is the max I would tow with my truck and I have:

1. WD hitch
2. Dual friction sway control
3. AirLift Air bags
4. Prodigy Brake controller
5. GT HD tires

Maybe that will help you?

japtitan · 06-28-2009, 02:13 PM

http://keystone-hideout.com/index.ph...lans&model=27B

**4mula1fan** · 06-28-2009, 02:26 PM

Just pull the dang thing and tell us what happens...

You are gonna be at the max or beyond. It probably will be a white knuckle ride....

**4mula1fan** · 06-28-2009, 02:28 PM

Ohh, and the truck should be the last thing you're worried about. Your safety and the safety of others on the road with you should be priority 1....

**RobKar** · 06-28-2009, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by japtitan

Keystone Hideout | Floorplans

They don't give you the weights???

OK for your truck I would recommend the minimum

1. WD hitch <-- MUST have
2. Dual friction sway control <-- A single one will be OK or and equalizer hitch
3. AirLift Air bags <-- Highly recommended about $300
4. Prodigy Brake controller <-- I like this one but its your choice ... Get one you like
5. GT HD tires <-- check your tires and if you have goodyear SRA then get something better.

Hope this helps

japtitan · 06-28-2009, 04:53 PM

gross weight is 6422 lbs.

**loufish** · 06-28-2009, 09:44 PM

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gross weight is 6422 lbs.

Where did you get that number?
The link you posted was for a Hideout Model 27B which does list the empty weight of 4888 lbs (a lie, it weighs more then that when delivered...) and a cargo rating of 2732 lbs....It's simple math ...4888+2732 = 7620 lbs...

That's the GVWR of that trailer, 7620 lbs...That's the number you use for any truck to determine if it can be towed or not....

japtitan · 06-28-2009, 11:56 PM

I am asking you these questions because I don't know anything about towing but this is about a friend of mines setup that i was concerned about because I knew something here is not right. This is his comment below on this setup from his research. What do you think?

Enough with all the idiotic emails! Everything you have written on your emails I already researched 3 months ago so it is old news to me. Also you do not have all your facts straight! Truck load weight and haul weight are 2 different things. The tow package I got aftermarket does all the same things a similar tow package from Nissan will do minus the huge price tag from Nissan (but minus the transmission temp. gauge which is an option to me but comes standard with their tow package). The dry weight of the trailer is 4888. Did you know that also includes the tongue weight (point where the truck hitches to the trailer)? The load weight on the truck is for the bed, not passengers unless you plan to have them ride in the box. With a dry weight of 4888 (which includes the tongue weight) and a towing capacity guideline of 6500, that leaves over 1600 lbs. of spare weight before you are at capacity. Yes, I know I would not want to exceed my capacity but with 500 – 600 lbs. of gear (food, clothing, bedding) that still leaves ½ a ton (1000 lbs.) of weight until you are at capacity. I spoke with Burnaby hitch regarding my tow package and it is rated to haul “6600” lbs. “dead haul” weight like a flatbed loaded with rocks etc. and includes tongue weight. It can haul up to “10,000” lbs. of “distributed” (equalized) weight provided you have a weight equalizer hitch with anti sway (which we have). I explained the weight of my trailer and my towing capacity and this is what I was told: - I have 1612 lbs. of spare capacity. This does not mean that I would want to fill the trailer with a bunch of **** to get up to that weight, but rather leave a buffer of 500-800 lbs. I was also told that with my capacities not to drive like a madman, not to rev the engine hard on hills, use manual mode with tow function button on, and to use my trailer brakes (that stupid little box on my dash which Nissan does not include in their package which you have to buy aftermarket regardless!). Even if I had an F-350 that could haul 11,000 lbs., I would drive the same way. As an example, your Pilot has a towing capacity of 2,045 lbs. Our old tent trailer weighed in dry at 1100 lbs. That leaves you with 945 lbs. of spare weight until you are at capacity. With what you have tried to explain in your previous emails, you would not be able to tow that tent trailer behind your Pilot because you would be over your limit! I know for a fact that you CAN haul that trailer with your Pilot! You would however need trailer brakes and a 7 point plug receiver installed. As well, you would not want to haul more than 400-500 lbs. of gear in the trailer itself. Just do the math and your homework with the proper facts (not just snippets of information you are quickly trying to read for the first time to prove your point!) Nuff Said… Chris.

Fox Delta · 06-29-2009, 06:05 AM

I think he is a moron....

and wrong.