Well I installed the eclipse. Soldered all connections, check to make sure it was working before I plugged it in. Tested CD's and radio. Everything worked.
Right now I'm running to stock speakers off the HU, I wired them in Series using the nissan wiring harness so they are 4 ohm Mono, This is temportany untill I get my amps hooked up. I may leave the rears in mono for filler sound in the back since I can't hook them up in sterio since they are only 2 ohms.
Anyways, I'm having a serious issue. As you can see in these pics the HU is a great match for the titan looks wise. However it does not fit!
When I hit the open button to change a CD it will not open up all the way. The HU's face moves down but it hits on the bottom part of the Metro Adapter, the plastic trim piece right above the place where you cna keep CD's....
I need some suggestions or advise here.
I don't think I can return the CD Player to Good Guys now that it is opened but they sold me a unit that does not fit!
Hard to explain but it is the mechanical arm on the HU that hits. I guess I'm out $300 on this CD player eh? I can't think of any ways to modify it to work besides removing the Metro Install hit and just having an open Bezel that looks like ****.
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You can try mounting the sleeve a little more outwards so that it has room, or go with the Scosche kit, as it doesn't have that "sunk in" type of mounting. I just replaced my Scosche faceplate with the factory one, only to realize that the oem bezel has a narrower opening. I can't install the little trim piece that surrounds the stereo, so back to the drawing boards.
Have you tried moving the radio slightly forward in the Metra kit? The radio appears to set 'back' into the opening. You should be able to move it forward slightly by putting a spacer between the radio mounting sleeve and the mounting kit face. This would move the sleeve forward by the length of the space (1/8 to 1/4 inch) thus moving the radio forward and maybe providing the necessary clearance.
Also, if it is only a movement arm that is being restricted (not the full length of the face plate) then it may be possible to remove some material from the mounting kit in the 'offending' area to permit full travel.
Have you tried moving the radio slightly forward in the Metra kit? The radio appears to set 'back' into the opening. You should be able to move it forward slightly by putting a spacer between the radio mounting sleeve and the mounting kit face. This would move the sleeve forward by the length of the space (1/8 to 1/4 inch) thus moving the radio forward and maybe providing the necessary clearance.
Also, if it is only a movement arm that is being restricted (not the full length of the face plate) then it may be possible to remove some material from the mounting kit in the 'offending' area to permit full travel.
I'm not sure what you mean with the metra kit.
The way the kit works is you you can't use ANY of the mounting hardware provided form your HU. It says to but nothing will fit if you do.
So Basicaly what I have is the 2 plastic side pieces screwed into the HU itself. These pieces hook around the front of the HU. If I put a spacer between these pieces and the HU it would only recess it more (don't really need a spacer as there slots in the plastic to mvoe the HU back farther)? These 2 plastic side pieces then Clip into the surround. so again this leaves no forward (or backwards) play because it clips and locks into place. The CD Player Bezel Plasic trim piece that comes with the Metra kit then fits over the rest (if you don't use the CD-Players mounting hardware it comes with).
If I was to use the sleve the CD Plyer fits into (the one the Eclipse unit comes with) the Trim Piece would not fit. Nor would I be able to use the plastic side pieces to clip the HU to the METRA mount.
How does the schoshe kit work? Does it allow forward adjustment?
Just take the Metra HU surround off and use the Eclipse's trim ring. I used my Alpine trim ring in my install as I know my HU wouldn't motorize down is I used the Metra trim ring. Other than that I think that the Metra Kit is superior to the others.
Ok 2 problems, even without outer ring (I think I have to remove the whole bezel again, and when you do this the green clips pop off and are lost in the dash (anyone know where to buy these green clips or do I have to buy a whole new bezel to get them?)
So I likely won't be able to re-install thbe bezel form my experience with removing the stock one.
Second in order to use the Eclipse Trim piece (which looks good) I have to use some of the other mounting hardware the CD-Player attaches to, If I use this hardware I can't fit the side pieces onto the HU and without the sidepieces there are no clips to attach the CD Player to the Metra mount.
On your alpine does the trim piece pop onto the HU itself? Or does it pop onto the mounting hardware like mine?
Mine just popped on like every HU that I had before. There was no special mounting hardware, it just snapped on.
I'm not sure what green clips you are referring too but I would bet that they don't have the own part number but are lumped in with the bezel. When I took mine off I didn't loose any....anthough they did pull away from the bezel a little bit. You should be ok if you take your time.
Im thinking I can cut off the front of the side tabs (the plastic sides that come with teh METRA) that hooks around the front of the HU, this would allow me to push the HU farther forward. If I have to go too far I won't be able to use the Metra bezel but I may be able to find a way to use the factory one (Maybe some glue or something) or maybe I can install the side brackets that came witht he HU, after removing the front part of the Metra one (this is where the interfearance was). With the stock slide clips I may be able to mount the stock trim piece instead of the Metra one.
You used the DIN mounting (plastic clips that attach to the HU then snap into place in the Metra kit). I was referring to using the metal sleeve method. A metal sleeve comes with most aftermarket radios that the radio will slide into. There are 'ears' on the radio unit that lock the radio into the sleeve. The sleeve in turn slides into the Metra dash kit and one bends tabs over to hold the sleeve in the dash kit. The sleeve can be positioned at two depths in the kit without the spacer 'ring' it slides to the back of the kit opening and allows the radio to be mounted at roughly the same 'depth' as the DIN mounting. Using the spacer 'ring' (most dash kits have them) inside the opening puts the front edge of the sleeve at the front of the dash kit opening. This moves the radio position about 1/4 inch forward of the position when using the DIN mounting as you did.
I can fit the sleve into the Metra housing with teh CD plyer yes... However there is NO way to attach it. Bending the clips to stop it form sliding out works yea, but this does not stop the HU from sliding in only from pulling it out. So then the CD-plyer is not attached to anything, and can slide forward and backwards inside the console but not be pulled out do to the clips being bent up? I don't get how this would work. I spent a fe whours looking at it and I thinkt he eclipse sleeve and slips are not compatable, DEFINATELY not compatable with the instructions that came with the METRA kit. If you use the sleeve, you cannot attach the side pieces that lock into the Metra housing.
I tried this method first. Also I have no idea what you are talking about when you say a spacer ring, the Metra kit does not have one? it's not listed on the parts list nor did I recieve one.
To be honest Im fed up with this stupid CD player that does not fit, and it's lack of having a pause button. Unfortunately I will have to pay a 30% restock fee if I can even take it back. I got screwed. Or cut my loses and buy a new CD-Player.
As further explaination: The sleeve has a variety of 'cutouts', the resulting tabs can be bent against the Metra frame to prevent the sleeve from sliding in and out. Several of the Metra kits I have used have a square ring which will clip into the opening in the kit where the radio fits. Without the 'ring' the sleeve fits rearward of the face of the kit. with the ring in place the front of the ring fits flush with the face of the kit.
On the side of the sleeve there are openings which are intended to be engaged by spring loaded clips on the HU. These clips would normally be removed or at least covered up when using the DIN type mounting you have configured. Using the sleeve method once the radio is inserted into the sleeve and pushed in such that the clips engage, it cannot be removed without disassembling the radio and kit from the dash or using 'release pins' (provided with the radio) that slide between the sides of the radio and the sleeve to force the clips back into the radio and out of the slots in the side of the sleeve.
The clips that keep the sleeve in place are not actualy part of my HU, They bolt on the sides of it. The issue still remains, I can bend the tabs up to stop the unit from sliding out, but there is no way to use these tabs to prevent the HU form sliding around inside the Metra housing The Metra housing is bacicaly the plastic boarder which extends back less than 1/2 an inch, there are clips on the sides of the housing that engauge with slots in the plastic sides (for the HU) provided by the kit. I don't see any way to use the metal tabs to keep the unit from moving around, I do not think it is possible with the Metra kit. But it does say to do this in the direction????
With the ring in place the metal sleve does not fit into the Metra Kit and visa versa. You can't use them both. With the metal sleve in place there is no way to mount the HU to the Metra kit. You can bend all the clips you want on the sleeve but noting is there to prevent the HU from sliding backwards into the dash, Thus it would be simply laying loose in the Housing but not actualy attached to it. The only way to secure the HU to the Metra Housing is by using the plastic sides provided (Maybe you could epxy the HU to the housing but thats petty crappy). I have not sceen another way to do this. So I still don't understand what your saying? How are bending tabs up going to secure the HU into the metra housing when there is nothing to secure them against except for the front of the housing shown in my pic.
Man This is wasy more complicated than it should be! Metra should have just made a kit where you mount the sleeve to it then slide in the HU and bolt it in and then yoru done done...
Last edited by Justintoxicated : 06-13-2005 at 04:13 PM.
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06-13-2005, 12:08 AM
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