Speaker Help!!!!!

RedAlert · 07-01-2006, 02:10 PM

Hey guys, I just purcahsed my AVIC-Z1 monitor, and have my sub box on order, what I need help with now is What type of speakers 6 1/2 should I get for the front and rears. I was told my factory ones will only sound a little bit better with the new HU, so I want to get all new speakers. Price wise I would say more so on the mid to High Range in price. Cant wait to get this all setup. The Avic-Z1 does it ALL.....Audio heads out there HELP..

I was told Pioneer has a 4 way speaker out that sounds good any others?????

grunge311 · 07-05-2006, 08:02 AM

best bang for the buck is the diamond d5 series..
next step up is the www.edesignaudio.com 6500s

Next step up is probably DLS
then rainbow

I went with ology audio on mine.. great product www.ologyaudio.com

RedAlert · 07-05-2006, 10:14 AM

Grunge,

Thanks for the response buddy I will check these speakers also, I want a Great quality sound with whatever I go with. check ur PM also.....you can reply here if you want.

Thanks
Jake

grunge311 · 07-05-2006, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RedAlert

Grunge,

Thanks for the response buddy I will check these speakers also, I want a Great quality sound with whatever I go with. check ur PM also.....you can reply here if you want.

Thanks
Jake

I'll add to what I said in the PM..

You should get an amp, even if its just going to a pawn shop and getting a 2x50 alpine for $50.. the difference will be incredible.

RedAlert · 07-06-2006, 08:23 AM

Grunge and Fosgate,

Appreciate all your input you guys have help me more than you now. once I have it all done I will give you guys an update with pics all should be done by the week of 17 July Time frame.

grunge311 · 07-06-2006, 11:42 AM

Sweet, glad to help.

What are you thinking of doing?

RedAlert · 07-08-2006, 07:33 PM

Grunge,

I would like to do a Setup like the STICKY on the Audio page, I want TV's in the Head Rest 7", my monitor up front, sub-Box under the back seat (set of MTX 10's), 2 set of 6.5 Speakers, along with a nice Amp, Back-up Camara, and Ipod connection, once its all set and confirmed I will post the install here.

grunge311 · 07-08-2006, 08:30 PM

I've been there an done that.

I currently have in my truck

4 amps
Diamond audio D4300.4 bridged to 200w for the fronts
Memphis 1000d subs
Sony 40x2 bridged for the center channel
usamps 2100 2x100 for the rears

Custom Ology audio components in the front and rears
CSS full range 4" center channel

Kenwood KVT-915dvd flip out 7" cd/dvd/mp3 player
Kenwood Kna-g510 navigation unit
Kenwood sirius sat tuner

Motoroly IHF-1000 bluetooth handsfree adapter

2x 7" headrest LCDs
2x Elemental Designs EU-700 subwoofers
Reverse camera
Modified xbox with a 250gb hard drive full of mp3s

High output alternator . . .

Thats about everything A/V related...

So anyway if you have any questions feel free to ask, I have put in everything you listed several times over in my titan

If I can recommend something.. Don't do components in the rear, I do them because I listen to alot of 5.1 audio. If your not going to do 5.1 then don't do the components in the rear. It will only destroy the soundstage. It would be louder with components back there, but the quality would be much lower. Just something to think about.

Vegas04 · 07-08-2006, 10:20 PM

I used a fosgate 50x4 amp and components by Alpine and it sounds really good. I definitely need a sub but as far as volume- I can't bear it turned all the way up. My speakers were like $150.00 / pair on ebay and the amp was second-hand from my buddy but it's an amazing improvement over stock!

RedAlert · 07-11-2006, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by grunge311

I've been there an done that.

I currently have in my truck

4 amps
Diamond audio D4300.4 bridged to 200w for the fronts
Memphis 1000d subs
Sony 40x2 bridged for the center channel
usamps 2100 2x100 for the rears

Custom Ology audio components in the front and rears
CSS full range 4" center channel

Kenwood KVT-915dvd flip out 7" cd/dvd/mp3 player
Kenwood Kna-g510 navigation unit
Kenwood sirius sat tuner

Motoroly IHF-1000 bluetooth handsfree adapter

2x 7" headrest LCDs
2x Elemental Designs EU-700 subwoofers
Reverse camera
Modified xbox with a 250gb hard drive full of mp3s

High output alternator . . .

Thats about everything A/V related...

So anyway if you have any questions feel free to ask, I have put in everything you listed several times over in my titan

If I can recommend something.. Don't do components in the rear, I do them because I listen to alot of 5.1 audio. If your not going to do 5.1 then don't do the components in the rear. It will only destroy the soundstage. It would be louder with components back there, but the quality would be much lower. Just something to think about.

Thanks,

for the info Appreciate your input sounds almost like what I will be doing, I got the 411 on the components in the rear, (I am putting coaxial back there) and components up front.

??? though I will be using only two amps Alpine F545 and one built into the Sub MTX box, do I need to upgrade my Battery and or my Alternator.

Jake

grunge311 · 07-11-2006, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RedAlert

Thanks,

for the info Appreciate your input sounds almost like what I will be doing, I got the 411 on the components in the rear, (I am putting coaxial back there) and components up front.

??? though I will be using only two amps Alpine F545 and one built into the Sub MTX box, do I need to upgrade my Battery and or my Alternator.

Jake

Do you know how much power you will have going out of the amps? I am guessing you will be doing 125x4 out of the alpine, and ~250 for the MTX?

anyway if you keep your stereo to ~1000w you will be fine with a battery upgrade (deep cycle), go over the 1000 and/or start adding lots of electronics and you will probably want to invest in an alternator.

The diamond audio speakers have a rear attentuation channel on the xovers so you wouldn't even have to worry about a set of coax in the rears, just get the rear kit from them.. if you went diamond that is.

And a coax isn't going to be any better that a component, the problem is your putting tweeters in the rear, which moves the soundstage and the sweet spot to an area behind your truck.. no longer inside it

It took me several stereos before I was convinced on this rears don't matter crap that everyone online would preach to me, but once you force yourself to try it you will realize that tweeters in teh rear will just suck the quality right out of your stereo.

but to each his own man, if you like the way it sounds with tweets back there, then you should put tweets back there.

RedAlert · 07-11-2006, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunge311

Do you know how much power you will have going out of the amps? I am guessing you will be doing 125x4 out of the alpine, and ~250 for the MTX?

anyway if you keep your stereo to ~1000w you will be fine with a battery upgrade (deep cycle), go over the 1000 and/or start adding lots of electronics and you will probably want to invest in an alternator.

The diamond audio speakers have a rear attentuation channel on the xovers so you wouldn't even have to worry about a set of coax in the rears, just get the rear kit from them.. if you went diamond that is.

And a coax isn't going to be any better that a component, the problem is your putting tweeters in the rear, which moves the soundstage and the sweet spot to an area behind your truck.. no longer inside it

It took me several stereos before I was convinced on this rears don't matter crap that everyone online would preach to me, but once you force yourself to try it you will realize that tweeters in teh rear will just suck the quality right out of your stereo.

but to each his own man, if you like the way it sounds with tweets back there, then you should put tweets back there.

Thanks,

Grunge always the helpful one....you are about correct on the output of both amps so I wll upgrade my battery......Optima Red Top O.K. or just over rated??? I have heard both...whats your take???/ or anyone elses...

Thanks in advance.

grunge311 · 07-11-2006, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RedAlert

Thanks,

Grunge always the helpful one....you are about correct on the output of both amps so I wll upgrade my battery......Optima Red Top O.K. or just over rated??? I have heard both...whats your take???/ or anyone elses...

Thanks in advance.

I have an optima blue top in my truck right now (the red was out of stock.. and other than more corrosion resistance there pretty much the same) and its performed great. The stinger I had in my last car was also a performer.

I think either would be fine, there are several different battery companies that make good quality batteries for this use.. Im sure some people will chime in here with there favorites.

The only real reason I went with optima over stinger or any of the other ones is because you can get them locally w/o searching too hard.

And if you were thinking about getting a cap, someone on this forum (forgot who sorry) got a little battery nicknamed the cap killer (do a search) that for all intents and purposes looks like it would be better than a regular cap or even and alumapro...

RedAlert · 07-12-2006, 06:06 AM

HAhaha...You are so correct with the stinger battery, saw them online but more difficult to find local here, I will call a few audio shops today and see, I went to Stinger's web site
http://www.stingerelectronics.com/we.../terminals.asp
to get a local dealer, see what happens today.