Amps, Subs, how good are they? Tech, P-Dizzle, anybody?

[P-Dizzle]

Originally Posted by t22a80

HAHA I'm glad you said something because if you didnt I was going to!

You guys can blow me. Haters.

[nguyenhoang]

Originally Posted by P-Dizzle

You guys can blow me. Haters.

that's funny...lol

[t22a80]

Originally Posted by P-Dizzle

You guys can blow me. Haters.

NOW, NOW, thats not a very good attitude!!!

[P-Dizzle]

Originally Posted by drummer_josh

i appreciate the feedback. im relatively new to the forum, and i have seen a lot of talk round here about these amps. but other than this forum, honestly, not much info on em. i dont mean that in a bad way. perhaps the company is new, trying to get their feet of the ground?? completely understandable. or perhaps im not lookin in the right places?? very good possibility. its just that if im going to dump that kinda cash into something, just as everyone else, i want my money's worth. the website offers some information on their amps, but im a "testimonial" consumer. ive been a car stereo junkie for years, and ive made my mistakes in purchases along the way, and we have all been in those situations where you buy it, and youre stuck with it. see what im sayin.? if there is anyone round here who can offer some pro / con opinion on these sundown amps? like i said in an earlier post, ill buy one, and if its worth it, ill advertise the heck out of it. i am just asking for some honest convincing. but one thing sets a company apart from others IMO. there isnt an amp on the market that i cant pop. not bragging....none of em are guaranteed forever, but that little thing called "customer service" is what makes all the difference in the world.....regardless of how big/ small the company. anyway, im rambling.....any info would be helpful...thanks guys.

Here is another great thing Jacob did. I ended up wanting 2 different series of amps. One SAE and one SAZ. The problem is the amps do not match. After begging Jacob for a 4 channel SAE prototype he decided to build a hybrid for me. He took a 100.2 heatsink and put it on a 1000D so that it would match my 100.4. Now that is customer service.

[nguyenhoang]

Originally Posted by P-Dizzle

Here is another great thing Jacob did. I ended up wanting 2 different series of amps. One SAE and one SAZ. The problem is the amps do not match. After begging Jacob for a 4 channel SAE prototype he decided to build a hybrid for me. He took a 100.2 heatsink and put it on a 1000D so that it would match my 100.4. Now that is customer service.

OMG that's what i wanted..didn't think to ask though

[tech12volt]

Originally Posted by nguyenhoang

OMG that's what i wanted..didn't think to ask though

Well i got one of the 50 by 4 amps. ha ha and matches the 1000d perfectly. maybe i should auction it.

[P-Dizzle]

Originally Posted by nguyenhoang

OMG that's what i wanted..didn't think to ask though

I didn't ask for this. Jacob came up with the solution. I got lucky because he had an extra heatsink laying around.

[P-Dizzle]

Originally Posted by tech12volt

Well i got one of the 50 by 4 amps. ha ha and matches the 1000d perfectly. maybe i should auction it.

I think James wants a foot in his ***...

[t22a80]

Originally Posted by tech12volt

Well i got one of the 50 by 4 amps. ha ha and matches the 1000d perfectly. maybe i should auction it.

OHH BOY, THATS GOING TO START SOME TROUBLE!!!

[Askari X]

Originally Posted by drummer_josh

i appreciate the feedback. im relatively new to the forum, and i have seen a lot of talk round here about these amps. but other than this forum, honestly, not much info on em. i dont mean that in a bad way. perhaps the company is new, trying to get their feet of the ground?? completely understandable. or perhaps im not lookin in the right places?? very good possibility. its just that if im going to dump that kinda cash into something, just as everyone else, i want my money's worth. the website offers some information on their amps, but im a "testimonial" consumer. ive been a car stereo junkie for years, and ive made my mistakes in purchases along the way, and we have all been in those situations where you buy it, and youre stuck with it. see what im sayin.? if there is anyone round here who can offer some pro / con opinion on these sundown amps? like i said in an earlier post, ill buy one, and if its worth it, ill advertise the heck out of it. i am just asking for some honest convincing. but one thing sets a company apart from others IMO. there isnt an amp on the market that i cant pop. not bragging....none of em are guaranteed forever, but that little thing called "customer service" is what makes all the difference in the world.....regardless of how big/ small the company. anyway, im rambling.....any info would be helpful...thanks guys.

I agree with you Drummer. I can only expect someone that is pushing a particular product to rant about how excellent it is. It wouldnt drive for good business if I am glorifying how junk my products are. Now I am not saying that Sundown is junk, I have never tried them before and I am curious to see how well they truly are. Its weird because at one time, even Audiobahn was sounding exactly like you Sundown guys do about quality this and that, no offense on the comparison. But hell, I'm sure even Soundstream, Crossfire, and some others as well have the same philosophies. I guess as a consumer, it comes down to where your gut is leading you. I wonder if there is a forum where as many of each product there is in existence, there is a rep there to debate these things. It would save on alot of phone calls if we all could just see it and read it all under one roof(website forum). Again, I am not trying to offend you guys from Sundown, believe me, I'm not the type to bash a persons business or their integrity, especially if I havent even tried their products or services firsthand. I will keep reading up on you guys. I will probably have some questions for you Tech12 or Sundownz if you dont mind them later.

Thankz,
Askari

[P-Dizzle]

There is a lof of BS hype on the internet. Most of it coming from people that don't know what the fukc their talking about and you do need to be careful. The difference is James, Jacob, Lizard, myself and a few others are Audio finatics. This isn't hype. Tech12volts can sell any product he pleases. I haven't seen amps of this quality in years. I can't name one unhappy customer of tech12volts and like James I also always give my clients more than they could ever expect. I will put the Sundown amps up against any other amplifier made today. And as I have done in the past, I'll put money on it.

[t22a80]

Originally Posted by P-Dizzle

There is a lof of BS hype on the internet. Most of it coming from people that don't know what the fukc their talking about and you do need to be careful. The difference is James, Jacob, Lizard, myself and a few others are Audio finatics. This isn't hype. Tech12volts can sell any product he pleases. I haven't seen amps of this quality in years. I can't name one unhappy customer of tech12volts and like James I also always give my clients more than they could ever expect. I will put the Sundown amps up against any other amplifier made today. And as I have done in the past, I'll put money on it.

Too bad Lizzard doesnt come around much anymore!

[tech12volt]

Originally Posted by Askari X

I agree with you Drummer. I can only expect someone that is pushing a particular product to rant about how excellent it is. It wouldnt drive for good business if I am glorifying how junk my products are. Now I am not saying that Sundown is junk, I have never tried them before and I am curious to see how well they truly are. Its weird because at one time, even Audiobahn was sounding exactly like you Sundown guys do about quality this and that, no offense on the comparison. But hell, I'm sure even Soundstream, Crossfire, and some others as well have the same philosophies. I guess as a consumer, it comes down to where your gut is leading you. I wonder if there is a forum where as many of each product there is in existence, there is a rep there to debate these things. It would save on alot of phone calls if we all could just see it and read it all under one roof(website forum). Again, I am not trying to offend you guys from Sundown, believe me, I'm not the type to bash a persons business or their integrity, especially if I havent even tried their products or services firsthand. I will keep reading up on you guys. I will probably have some questions for you Tech12 or Sundownz if you dont mind them later.

Thankz,
Askari

I see your point but let me correct you on some stuff. Soundstream at one time built one of the best amps on the market. They went bankrupt due to a faulty product. They were bought by a company that makes radar detectors and has been down hill ever since.
Audiobahn has built the same stuff from the beginning. In my opinion low end audio. The differnce between me and most companies is that I choose to sell sundown is because they were built that well. I am a custom sub enclosure company and master installer with over 16 years installing competing and judging. . I am very selective in the car audio i sell. Very selective. In 10 years sundown will be a zapco kind of company. I would bet on it. audiobahn , planet audio, and hundreds of other car audio companies are whores. They sell their product through thousands of wharehouses and internet companies and never check to see if their product is being represented and warrantied correctly. Its how much money is made instead of how well a customer is taken care of. Most consumers are speaking about 1 to 2 amps they owned 5 at the most. When i speak about a company i have installed , sold and owned 100s.Thats the difference between when I say a company builds something nice and when something is crap. My favorite comps are Dynaudio and many have heard me talk about how great they are and how I have them in most of my personal installs. And i do not sell them. Why? Because most can not and will not spend that kind of money on comps. I sold memphis up untill a few months ago. They had nice products that were built well for the money. I dropped them because they would not take care of one of there problems with one of my customers vehicles and Memphis stuff was selling like crazy. But if screw up you need to fix your screw up.

[P-Dizzle]

Touche........

[t22a80]

Yah what James said... haha