Mossy design judder proof brake pads for Titan/Armada

*Squid* · 02-12-2005, 05:50 PM

This was their January Press Release.
http://www.freshalloy.com/site/featu...ssy/home.shtml

got_titan · 02-12-2005, 05:57 PM

hey squid i have had these carbotech pads on for about 3000 miles and all i can say is there fantastic. the stop better, feel great and 0 warpage as of 4000 miles. my last truck had been in for service twice before 5000 miles for the brakes. the pads are great and cost only 75.

scsTiTan · 02-12-2005, 09:43 PM

Hey Got-Titan that sounds great, but right now I don't have the brake problems that seem to be everywhere, however I was wondering about the dust since I do have plenty of that. Do you see an increase or decrease or about the same?

Thanks,

got_titan · 02-12-2005, 09:54 PM

theres about an 80% decrease in dusting, the back actually shows more dusting than the front now.

HavockWK · 02-12-2005, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by got_titan

hey squid i have had these carbotech pads on for about 3000 miles and all i can say is there fantastic. the stop better, feel great and 0 warpage as of 4000 miles. my last truck had been in for service twice before 5000 miles for the brakes. the pads are great and cost only 75.

Thanks for the info!

With all the people who got in on the group buy for these, we should be able to scare up some more reviews after various mileages.

Anyone?

homer · 02-13-2005, 06:24 PM

Please excuse my ignorance on this subject, but does $75 get you 4 pads or 2? Should the same pads be used all around?
I haven't had a hint of brake judder yet but would GLADLY drop $75 for an 80% reduction in brake dust.

Prlauren · 02-15-2005, 04:22 PM

Went on to Stillens site. I wanted to know if I bought from them the new rotors and pads from stillen if I have to disassemble the hubs to get the rotors off. Does anyone know if the rotors are slip offs or do you have to disassemble hubs to get the rotors off? If they are slip offs I was thinking of purchasing the slotted rotor kit and stillen brake pads. This may resolve my warped rotor problems for good??????

bestatchess · 02-15-2005, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homer

Please excuse my ignorance on this subject, but does $75 get you 4 pads or 2? Should the same pads be used all around?
I haven't had a hint of brake judder yet but would GLADLY drop $75 for an 80% reduction in brake dust.

front 2 pads for $75

Clancy · 02-15-2005, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bestatchess

front 2 pads for $75

ouch. very ouch.

BIGT56PA · 03-01-2005, 01:59 PM

I would ask Mossy. It should be 75.00 for the front set, not 2 pads but 4 pads in the set.

I will wait for PBR metal masters to come out, I like these pads for all my vehicles.

Chris 04

bestatchess · 03-01-2005, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGT56PA

I would ask Mossy. It should be 75.00 for the front set, not 2 pads but 4 pads in the set.

I will wait for PBR metal masters to come out, I like these pads for all my vehicles.

Chris 04

Sorry, that is what I meant. Two front sets for $75.00.

**gr8titan** · 03-01-2005, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prlauren

Went on to Stillens site. I wanted to know if I bought from them the new rotors and pads from stillen if I have to disassemble the hubs to get the rotors off. Does anyone know if the rotors are slip offs or do you have to disassemble hubs to get the rotors off? If they are slip offs I was thinking of purchasing the slotted rotor kit and stillen brake pads. This may resolve my warped rotor problems for good??????

Check the Stillen thread I started here in the "wheels, tires & brakes section". I purchased the big brake kit and it is a direct bolt on replacement. You can also click on the links below my SIG for further details & photos of the install.

Nissan will eventually issue a TSB or recall and the front brakes will be replaced with thicker (by decreasing the fin cooling space) twin rotors designed to be used with "softer" pads.

Any brake specialist will tell you that this (Nissan's) is not a smart approach to the Titan's inherent problem. Nissan dropped the ball when they used the same size diameter on front twin and rear single rotors. The front brakes uses MORE than 60% and the rear brakes LESS than 40% in stopping a vehicle.

This is where the inherent problem lies: THERE ARE NO WARPED REAR ROTORS IN THE TITAN! The rears are just fine however, everytime the brakes are applied, the front pads apply over 20% more energy on the front rotors & over 20% more heat generated. Since the front and rear rotors are the same size & the pad/rotor contact surface are the same, this causes the front rotors to be degraded at a disproportionate faster rate than the rear. If Nissan increases the front rotor thickness (TSB or recall) by reducing the center cooling space, the rotor will be unable to eliminate heat efficiently causing even hotter rotors. Softer pads will just be replaced more often than anyone would like. Nissan just made a "bait and switch" sales pitch.

I for one do not intend to go through this "band-aid" approach. Eventually, this inherent problem will hit us in one way or another. Remember, the Titan is heavy (over 5K lbs) and powerfull (379 ft/lbs stock). Try stopping that stump pulling torque with Frontier brakes!!

When you visit your local Nissan dealer to have your brakes fixed, check the Frontier, Maxima, Altima, etc. Either they all have larger diameter OEM front rotors or have rear drum brakes!!!

Hope this info helps. PEACE

bestatchess · 03-01-2005, 03:02 PM

"I purchased the big brake kit and it is a direct bolt on replacement."

I would do that also but I have 17" wheels.

*Beast305* · 03-01-2005, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HavockWK

Thanks for the info!

With all the people who got in on the group buy for these, we should be able to scare up some more reviews after various mileages.

Anyone?

3400 miles here, and no warpage. Total 9400 miles. I had 2 sets of stock pads and rotors under 6k replaced.

*Beast305* · 03-01-2005, 08:32 PM

The rotors are part of the cause. But the main cause are the pads creating too much heat. Better pads solve this problem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gr8titan

Check the Stillen thread I started here in the "wheels, tires & brakes section". I purchased the big brake kit and it is a direct bolt on replacement. You can also click on the links below my SIG for further details & photos of the install.

Nissan will eventually issue a TSB or recall and the front brakes will be replaced with thicker (by decreasing the fin cooling space) twin rotors designed to be used with "softer" pads.

Any brake specialist will tell you that this (Nissan's) is not a smart approach to the Titan's inherent problem. Nissan dropped the ball when they used the same size diameter on front twin and rear single rotors. The front brakes uses MORE than 60% and the rear brakes LESS than 40% in stopping a vehicle.

This is where the inherent problem lies: THERE ARE NO WARPED REAR ROTORS IN THE TITAN! The rears are just fine however, everytime the brakes are applied, the front pads apply over 20% more energy on the front rotors & over 20% more heat generated. Since the front and rear rotors are the same size & the pad/rotor contact surface are the same, this causes the front rotors to be degraded at a disproportionate faster rate than the rear. If Nissan increases the front rotor thickness (TSB or recall) by reducing the center cooling space, the rotor will be unable to eliminate heat efficiently causing even hotter rotors. Softer pads will just be replaced more often than anyone would like. Nissan just made a "bait and switch" sales pitch.

I for one do not intend to go through this "band-aid" approach. Eventually, this inherent problem will hit us in one way or another. Remember, the Titan is heavy (over 5K lbs) and powerfull (379 ft/lbs stock). Try stopping that stump pulling torque with Frontier brakes!!

When you visit your local Nissan dealer to have your brakes fixed, check the Frontier, Maxima, Altima, etc. Either they all have larger diameter OEM front rotors or have rear drum brakes!!!

Hope this info helps. PEACE