Ignorance is everwhere

*Contra* · 12-23-2005, 03:22 PM

i bwent to valvoline today to get my first iol change (1800 miles)

i wanted to change it because my wife is gonna take for a 600 mile trip

so i made sure they used the right oil and a good filter
but when it came to the tire pressure the kid only put in 32 pounds
i told him to put in 44 because that is what the tire SAYS
if not the pressure would be too low and the sensores would go off

he said the door recomends 32 (front) 35 (rear)
all i got to say is the kid should have been tough to put in what the TIRE says not the door
mainly because the tires could not be stock like larger{mine} or smaller or really huge like what you might find on some peoples trucks here in the forum
the Texas Titan comes with 18" that requests 44 psi
i told the kid put in what the cust requests or what the tires says dont go by the door

MuskyHunter · 12-23-2005, 03:44 PM

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Ignorance is everwhere...I told him to put in 44 because that is what the tire SAYS

Well, it can go both ways. All I can say is that anything less than 35 lbs will set off the tire warning light, not 44. As for the tires, they generally stamped to show maximum PSI. The door label should be followed, but without looking at the door label, I question the 32lbs up front as I recall seeing 35 on mine.

4X4SoCalTitan · 12-23-2005, 04:02 PM

I think most places go by the manufactures recommended pressure listed on the door panel. Some people do have their own preference though. Give the kid a break, he is only doing what he was taught.

bestatchess · 12-23-2005, 04:12 PM

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=21

Mustard · 12-24-2005, 01:53 AM

44lbs man you must get a great ride out of that. I don't like anything over 32, so yes I fight with the tire warning light when the temp drops.

**loufish** · 12-24-2005, 02:15 AM

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i bwent to valvoline today to get my first iol change (1800 miles)

i wanted to change it because my wife is gonna take for a 600 mile trip

so i made sure they used the right oil and a good filter
but when it came to the tire pressure the kid only put in 32 pounds
i told him to put in 44 because that is what the tire SAYS
if not the pressure would be too low and the sensores would go off

he said the door recomends 32 (front) 35 (rear)
all i got to say is the kid should have been tough to put in what the TIRE says not the door
mainly because the tires could not be stock like larger{mine} or smaller or really huge like what you might find on some peoples trucks here in the forum
the Texas Titan comes with 18" that requests 44 psi
i told the kid put in what the cust requests or what the tires says dont go by the door

Are you bored? You must be to call some kid working at a oil change place down the street ignorant when you can't seem to spell very well...The pressure on the side of the tire is the MAX cold pressure, never to exceed that amount, it doesn't mean it HAS to be that amount.
The kid wasn't "tough"(taught) how to determine the correct pressure to apply, you should be glad he wasn't tough enough to tell you to kiss his a**

Then again you could just be foolin around, and I fell for it...

BigA · 12-24-2005, 05:32 AM

The sticker behind the front door on my truck says 35 PSI and that is what I have been keeping them at, they droped down to 30PSI and the Tire light came on so I filled them back to 35PSI yesturday, yea 44 is a Max PSI, if you were carring a heavy load or something but you are suppose to put in what is stated on the door frame if you have stock tires.

1bigtexastitan · 12-24-2005, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by loufish

Are you bored? You must be to call some kid working at a oil change place down the street ignorant when you can't seem to spell very well...The pressure on the side of the tire is the MAX cold pressure, never to exceed that amount, it doesn't mean it HAS to be that amount.
The kid wasn't "tough"(taught) how to determine the correct pressure to apply, you should be glad he wasn't tough enough to tell you to kiss his a**

Then again you could just be foolin around, and I fell for it...

I agree with you loufish. If contra was fooling us, he got me too. But on the other hand, if I had to retort to his comments, then here is my ignorant response:

READ, READ, READ and READ your owners manual for information that you will find very useful. It doesn't matter where you find the information, it is there for a reason. The auto makers have to put it everywhere albeit on the door jam or where ever because alot of people don't read their owners manual at all. It even states on the outside of the tire that there is a max air pressure, which in your case is 44 psi. Max means the most, not the normal. I hope this helps.

Mr. B · 12-24-2005, 11:11 AM

So, you are of the belief that the door sticker on your truck is a better place to find information on tire pressure than on the sidewall of the tire? I don't think so, Buckwheat.

scr38 · 12-24-2005, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. B

So, you are of the belief that the door sticker on your truck is a better place to find information on tire pressure than on the sidewall of the tire? I don't think so, Buckwheat.

The kid was right. The sticker on the door post lists the correct pressure. As others have stated, 44 is the MAXIMUM pressure that the tire is rated for. This does not mean that is the normal operating pressure.

Mr. B · 12-24-2005, 11:50 AM

My point is that there is a number of different tire manufacturers that supply original equipment tires for Nissan. These tires will be on the truck for about 50k miles max. After that, there ain't no telling where the next set of tires will come from but you can bet your sweet pa-tootie that the owners manual nor the "door sticker" will know what the pressure will need to be for optimum tire performance. The door sticker is probably a disclaimer of sorts. If you need to know what pressure to use in a tire, find out from the tire manufacturer, not something supplied by Nissan. Maybe I should have ignored this thought.

**loufish** · 12-24-2005, 09:56 PM

Bottom line...The door sticker recomended pressure is the MININUM pressure you should run, the sidewall rating is the MAXIMUM pressure you should ever use.
Any where in between those pressures is fair game...

Mr. B · 12-25-2005, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by loufish

Bottom line...The door sticker recomended pressure is the MININUM pressure you should run, the sidewall rating is the MAXIMUM pressure you should ever use.
Any where in between those pressures is fair game...

I have a feeling I'm gonna regret this statement, but for some reason I can't explain, I just can't let it go........ The door sticker has absolutly nothing to do with your tires. The sticker does not know what brand tire is on your truck. The sticker does not know what pressure those tires need,(max. or min.)The sticker is probably there to apease our litigus society......dang it, I'm trying to use words I can't spell and it's all your fault.

**gr8titan** · 12-25-2005, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. B

I have a feeling I'm gonna regret this statement, but for some reason I can't explain, I just can't let it go........ The door sticker has absolutly nothing to do with your tires. The sticker does not know what brand tire is on your truck. The sticker does not know what pressure those tires need,(max. or min.)The sticker is probably there to apease our litigus society......dang it, I'm trying to use words I can't spell and it's all your fault.

Yes you may have to regret it later because you are looking at this from an impractical perspective. You see "Tire-brand-X" is sold to be used on countless vehicles with varied GVWRs. Installed, each vehicle would have varied tire PSI readings because of the weight the vehicle puts on the tire.

Example: If you install a 35" tire on a Jeep-CJ and compare the same 35" tire installed in an F-350, their pressure readings/requirement will be different. It's as simple as that. If both drivers went for the maximum tire PSIs installed, both vehicles will not be running at the same optimum ride quality. As you may have noticed, every vehicle has different optimal tire pressure requirements and these are all because of their individual GVWRs.

The pressure sticker on the door jamb has all to do with the weight of the specific (ex:Titan) vehicle working in conjuction with any tire brand/size installed. As everyone else is saying, "Maximum" pressure is just that it: "MAXIMUM" allowed by the manufacturer for safe operating pressures if the conditions allow it because they (tire manufacturer) do not know on what vehicle their tires will be installed in.

That poor kid was just doing the right thing as "taught" by his employer.

Mr. B · 12-25-2005, 05:47 AM

Thanks gr8 one, I beleive that you have cleared up my thinking on this subject.