Titan vs Third Gen Camaro

[anmut]

Don't know what year it is exactly but I know it's a third generation Camaro. It's my uncle's baby and he's been giving me **** about my Titan. I'm going to line up with him this summer (he live a ways away). Anyone ever raced one of these? I'm pretty sure I'll be eating him alive. He's fairly stock, some minor intake and exhaust mods but no NOS or FI. By summer I'll have the CAI and possibly Osiris.

[anmut]

BUMP!

From what I can find online his car should run a 6-7sec zero-to-sixty and a 15 second 1/4 mile...

Should be a good race! I reminded my uncle that if he wins, well that means I lost to a sports car. If I win he lost to a 5800lb truck! hahaha

[TitanLou]

You should be able to take him.

[Kronos1965]

It was rated at something like 330HP for the SS and the Z28 (non-ram air and quieter muffler) was rated at 305, but there is actually a negligible difference between the two because the Ram-air on the SS is hardly worth anything although it looks cool. Ramming would be worth a mild form of supercharging if you were going close to 200MPH.

The "standard" LS1 was officially rated at 305HP @ 5200RPM and 335 Ft-lb @ 4000 but in this Hot Rod article put 292.8HP @5400 and 307.5 Ft-lb at 4400 RPM to the rear-wheel dyno roller, so accounting for losses through the drivetrain, it makes substantially more than it is rated for. The SS was rated about 20 to 25HP more, but almost no more torque, which is what you're really interested in. Since the Corvette is rated higher than the Camaro SS yet, in this example made slightly less than the Firebird, I think you have your answer whether SS or not.

Either way, the LS1s were underrated (in Camaros/Firebirds)whether SS or not. In the 1998 issue of "Hot Rod" magazine they rear-wheel dyno'd a bunch of cars. The 1998 Firebird Formula (rated at 305HP) put 292 HP to the ground. The Corvette (rated at 350HP) put 285. Close enough to tell you that the ratings are merely a game, and that a 305HP LS1 is pretty much the same as a 330HP or 350HP rated one.

As a point of reference, the Ford Mustang Cobra of the same time was a 4.6L DOHC 32-valve motor that was also rated at 305 HP but put out a lowly 256 on the rear-wheel dyno.

Three points: (1) LS1 (and derivatives of this engine) are awesome, and all likely make about 350 HP at the crankshaft. (2) HP figures are pretty much a ratings game (3) Each "Ford horsepower" is definitely not equivalent to a "Chevy horsepower", at least not at the time.

As for you and your Dad, it will depend upon launch and I will give him the nod...

[anmut]

It's my uncle but he's cool enough to be called my Dad... It is not an SS but is a Z28 no ram-air. Also if memory serves correct it's an automatic tranny... I might have an advantage just in that!

[yourpapi]

yes an auto you will have an advantage just learn ho to use your truck right its all about the driver man!

[Rick G.]

Hmm....I just happen to have an 07 Titan and an 02 Camaro (Z28, not SS) in my garage. My advice: Don't bet any money on that race because you will lose big!

[anmut]

Hell no - I don't gamble anyway. Truthfully my goals are to 1) establish a baseline and 2) shut him up about 'rice'

Even if I lose I hope it's close. Like I said before, if he wins, well then I lost to a sports car. If I win, well he lost to a truck... hehehehe

[CHEVY05CREW]

The Thrid Gen Camaros were made between 1982 - 1992. You will have a much better chance at winning against one of these then 93 - 97 that came with the LT1 or 98+ that came with the LS1. I know for personal experience that the LT1 cars ran 14.0 - 13.9 in the 1/4 and the LS1 Cars were faster than that. Good Luck against your uncle.

[boya544]

What year Camaro? And what engine size is it? My buddy has a '87 5.7 L98 IROC w/ Intake,headers,dual flowmasters and a jet chip.I can take him by 2 cars up to 80mph after that he starts to catch up and by 100mph we are almost bumper to bumper.

[R3.Pro-4X]

i ran against a 92 camaro with a 305ci a few days ago. and i beat him maybe by the bumper... really close... should be a good race.