Titan Vs F 150 - Page 2

O'silent1 · 04-30-2008, 09:09 AM

PM'd ya Goathead!

**goathead** · 04-30-2008, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by O'silent1

PM'd ya Goathead!

back at you...

TNMan · 05-06-2008, 09:26 AM

Who buys a truck to go fast? If you want a fast truck, you get a Ford Lightning or RAM SRT-10.

You are bragging about beating a full size truck in a race. I'm sure that was the slowest race in history, especially to only hit 50mph. Is that even considered a race???

One thing you are forgetting is that the Ford truck you raced will tow more, and is rated to tow more, than your beloved Nissan. So... keep on racing with your 'fast' truck, and the Fords will keep on towing more.

rtc1184 · 05-06-2008, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TNMan

Who buys a truck to go fast? If you want a fast truck, you get a Ford Lightning or RAM SRT-10.

You are bragging about beating a full size truck in a race. I'm sure that was the slowest race in history, especially to only hit 50mph. Is that even considered a race???

One thing you are forgetting is that the Ford truck you raced will tow more, and is rated to tow more, than your beloved Nissan. So... keep on racing with your 'fast' truck, and the Fords will keep on towing more.

wow we must have a guest that is a ford owner! must have been beaten once or twice too! it is ok you have an issue with the titan, better pricing, bigger-stronger motor, quicker. every truck has its issues, just issues with other trucks are their issue is the titan, lol. if you want to come in a forum devoted for titans then show respect other wise crawl back in your slow ford and tow all that you need to tow since it is so much more powerful. also what is wrong with having a truck that will drag around an f-150 all day and beat it in a race? nothing i didn think so. well have a great day in your ford!

TNMan · 05-06-2008, 09:50 AM

Oh, so wrong. Why would I ever buy a new pos truck when I can have a truck that was built to last. An older truck that will still be running while your Titans are in the dealerships.

But that's off the subject.

You ignored the fact that you guys are all so happy to see a Titan win a race against something else, but forget the fact that Ford dominates your *** in towing. Again, who buys a truck to go fast? Grow up. Trucks are meant to tow, and Ford wins.

rtc1184 · 05-06-2008, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TNMan

Oh, so wrong. Why would I ever buy a new pos truck when I can have a truck that was built to last. An older truck that will still be running while your Titans are in the dealerships.

But that's off the subject.

You ignored the fact that you guys are all so happy to see a Titan win a race against something else, but forget the fact that Ford dominates your *** in towing. Again, who buys a truck to go fast? Grow up. Trucks are meant to tow, and Ford wins.

any day you want to hook you terd to my titan on the street then we can? money? i would load my titan with anything you feel the need to load your ford with. and pull it down the road easier, faster and more efficently. so it is whatever you feel the urge to do.

Juday · 05-06-2008, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TNMan

Oh, so wrong. Why would I ever buy a new pos truck when I can have a truck that was built to last. An older truck that will still be running while your Titans are in the dealerships.

But that's off the subject.

You ignored the fact that you guys are all so happy to see a Titan win a race against something else, but forget the fact that Ford dominates your *** in towing. Again, who buys a truck to go fast? Grow up. Trucks are meant to tow, and Ford wins.

HAHAHA, sorry I couldn't help but laugh. Also, between an equally equipped Titan and Ford, the Titan tows more. But, I guess you already knew that genius...

BTW, I drive a 2004 Ford F-150 Ext. Cab 4x4 w/ 5.4L Triton for a company vehicle. By the end of the day, there's no question which truck I'd rather own.

Go troll somewhere else, we've beaten this subject to death so many times it's ridiculous.

miketan · 05-06-2008, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TNMan

Oh, so wrong. Why would I ever buy a new pos truck when I can have a truck that was built to last. An older truck that will still be running while your Titans are in the dealerships.

But that's off the subject.

You ignored the fact that you guys are all so happy to see a Titan win a race against something else, but forget the fact that Ford dominates your *** in towing. Again, who buys a truck to go fast? Grow up. Trucks are meant to tow, and Ford wins.

Are you sure you're on the right forum? This is actually Titan Talk not tundra talk. We have fully boxed frames with fully welded cross members too.

Dominates in towing? Whoopee do!. 1-2k lbs difference in max tow rating is a manufacturer gimmick just like the old pre SAE hp ratings. Who in their right mind tows at max rating in a 1/2 ton PU? That is, unless you plan on selling it in less than 2 years. Payload capacity is a more important factor than those highly inflated max towing numbers.

According to your logic, if trucks are meant to tow, then I guess you should be driving an F350 diesel. At 4.59 a gallon and rising for diesel around here, I think I'll pass.

The problem with the Ford F-150 is that it's too damn heavy and the 5.4 L is lethargic for the supposedly factory rated 300hp. That's probably why they lighten it up for '09. They couldn't get any more power out of the POS engine so they lighten that heavy a$$ frame.

The F-150 ain't a bad truck, but the Titan is better. DOHC V8, 5sp automatic trans, better brakes, better styling, and generally a better value than what you would get in a comparable domestic like the F-150. Oh yeah, did I mention the Titan is a lot FASTER too? LOL!

TNMan · 05-06-2008, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rtc1184

any day you want to hook you terd to my titan on the street then we can? money? i would load my titan with anything you feel the need to load your ford with. and pull it down the road easier, faster and more efficently. so it is whatever you feel the urge to do.

Funny you should say that, considering my name says TN in it, so apparently I live pretty far away from you, but should you ever feel the need for me to bust those weak rear ends with my Ford 9in rear end, let me know when you head up this way. You guys and your new people transporting trucks. Jesus, when will you learn what tough means. "Smooth ride.. efficient... fast" Where's the tough part? Oh yeah, it's a Nissan.

Miketan, who in their right mind buys a truck to race against other trucks? I know more than all you know that Ford doesn't make fast trucks like Chevrolet, Toyota, and Nissan. But, they are tougher. Anything your truck is rated to do, an F-150 is rated for more. Horsepower figures sell automobiles to people .. like this. 5-speed auto trans? Hell, I have a 4-speed with low manual trans. NP435. Yes, your tranny will bust before mine breaks a sweat. You guys are too young.

You have one thing going for you, nice sound. But the sound doesn't get you home.. or up that steep hill with 8500lbs behind you. The 5.4 makes it's torque much lower than your 5.6. And that's not even why it tows more. The engine helps with the ratings, but it's all about the drivetrain and braking, which also beats the Nissan. And the 5.4 can make plenty more power. You do know that's what's in the Ford GT, don't you?

When your truck is old enough to drink beer, like mine, then call me. I'll tow you home.

EDIT: BTW, I've noticed you guys worship Popular Mechanics (bad) choice in loving the Titan. Apparently, they, like most people here, rate a truck by 0-60, and not 60-0 and reliability like it should be chosen by.

So, I decided to find this beautiful article that is held as a piece of gold and compare who REALLY has the best braking. Don't you agree 60-0 is more important than 0-60, loaded or unloaded? You should.

Titan - Loaded: 30-0: 37.26; 60-0: 144.3
F150 - Loaded: 30-0: 29.01; 60-0: 123.46
Tundra-Loaded: 30-0: 35.5; 60-0: 141.16
Chevy- Loaded: 30-0: 36.64; 60-0: 152.14

BTW, the F150 also won them all unloaded. Now, I don't understand how you could say the Titan has better brakes?

rtc1184 · 05-06-2008, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TNMan

Funny you should say that, considering my name says TN in it, so apparently I live pretty far away from you, but should you ever feel the need for me to bust those weak rear ends with my Ford 9in rear end, let me know when you head up this way. You guys and your new people transporting trucks. Jesus, when will you learn what tough means. "Smooth ride.. efficient... fast" Where's the tough part? Oh yeah, it's a Nissan.

Miketan, who in their right mind buys a truck to race against other trucks? I know more than all you know that Ford doesn't make fast trucks like Chevrolet, Toyota, and Nissan. But, they are tougher. Anything your truck is rated to do, an F-150 is rated for more. Horsepower figures sell automobiles to people .. like this. 5-speed auto trans? Hell, I have a 4-speed with low manual trans. NP435. Yes, your tranny will bust before mine breaks a sweat. You guys are too young.

You have one thing going for you, nice sound. But the sound doesn't get you home.. or up that steep hill with 8500lbs behind you. The 5.4 makes it's torque much lower than your 5.6. And that's not even why it tows more. The engine helps with the ratings, but it's all about the drivetrain and braking, which also beats the Nissan. And the 5.4 can make plenty more power. You do know that's what's in the Ford GT, don't you?

When your truck is old enough to drink beer, like mine, then call me. I'll tow you home.

EDIT: BTW, I've noticed you guys worship Popular Mechanics (bad) choice in loving the Titan. Apparently, they, like most people here, rate a truck by 0-60, and not 60-0 and reliability like it should be chosen by.

So, I decided to find this beautiful article that is held as a piece of gold and compare who REALLY has the best braking. Don't you agree 60-0 is more important than 0-60, loaded or unloaded? You should.

Titan - Loaded: 30-0: 37.26; 60-0: 144.3
F150 - Loaded: 30-0: 29.01; 60-0: 123.46
Tundra-Loaded: 30-0: 35.5; 60-0: 141.16
Chevy- Loaded: 30-0: 36.64; 60-0: 152.14

BTW, the F150 also won them all unloaded. Now, I don't understand how you could say the Titan has better brakes?

you think your 5.4 is just off the charts right. well hate to tell you it isnt, why do so many power steering pumps in the f-150's start leaking, why cant you put a welded in gooseneck in a f-150? for the reason why they are a pos! and you also make the comment that the f-150 makes its torque lower than the titan? what rpm range does it makes it torque oh wait torque is also the thing needed to tow heavier object too correct? how much torque does the f-150 produce, hmmmm i think the titans is more. what gear ratio is in the f-150? and we have a 5speed automatic you have a what? 4spd thought so. so from my aclimation i believe a truck with bigger motor, more hp, more torque = a truck that can tow more, longer and easier. but if you like your truck more power too you, just dont come into a forum where a truck that is on many accounts better than yours and try to run off at the mouth, my titan with 8inch lift would run over your ole' mighty ford. sorry man just the truth.

There are three main engine choices in the F-150 line: a 4.2-liter V6, a 4.6-liter V8 and a 5.4-liter V8. Available only on regular cabs, the 4.2-liter V6 makes 202 hp and 260 lb-ft of torque. The 4.6-liter V8 provides 248 hp and 293 lb-ft of torque, while the 5.4-liter V8 produces 300 hp and 365 lb-ft of torque. Both V8 engines are matched to four-speed automatic transmissions.

Properly equipped, an F-150 with the 5.4-liter V8 can tow up to 11,000 pounds and carry a 3,050-pound payload. However, whether unladen or towing a trailer, the F-150 feels noticeably slower than peers like the Toyota Tundra, Nissan Titan, Dodge Ram and GM twins (Silverado and Sierra), an impression borne out by our performance test results

Antilock disc brakes are standard across the board. Traction control is optional on 2WD V8 models. Unlike most of its competitors, the F-150 does not offer side airbags or stability control -- the latter a key feature for avoiding accidents in the first place

Thanks to its stiff frame, double-wishbone front suspension and rack-and-pinion steering, the 2008 Ford F-150 delivers impressive ride and handling dynamics for a full-size truck. Unfortunately, the truck's beefy curb weight is too much for the 4.2-liter V6 and 4.6-liter V8 engines, so the 5.4-liter V8 is strongly recommended for most consumers. The brakes feel solid, with a firm pedal, but stopping distances are still longer than most of the F-150's competition!!!!!!!!!!

wow everyone of these paragraphs come straight off a review and spec for ford! pretty impressive to me

http://www.edmunds.com/ford/f150/2008/review.html

TNMan · 05-06-2008, 04:34 PM

The 5.4 does have more bottom end torque than the 5.6. I'm not talking about 'peak' torque. No, it does lose by 20 ft-lbs, or is it 15, which isn't impressive on your part. It makes more torque at 1000RPM than all the other trucks in its range. Not that 1000RPM means a lot. But, yet, can still tow 2-3000lbs more? It has the highest tow rating. It can stop WAY better. Who cares how fast you can get to 60mph with a full load behind you? People on this forum. But, who cares how fast you can stop from 60mph with a full load behind you? Everyone. Ford does that far better. I have never once said or implied that the Ford's 5.4 is fast in their trucks. I've been saying over and over that speed doesn't matter if you are lacking in everything else.

And, btw, I said I have an old truck. One old enough to drink beer. That means I don't have a 4.2, 4.6, or 5.4. That's why my truck is still running. Still running perfect, if I might add. You all are so caught up in the 'speed' and 'horsepower figures' that you forget what makes a truck a truck. You do know that back in the day, it didn't take even 300ft-lbs, let alone 380+ ft-lbs, to tow heavy loads? Maybe you don't. 1/4 mile times don't get you back home. And, Ford beat Nissan in the safety tests, regardless of side air bags.

My whole point is that SPEED does not make a truck, yet you guys keep using that as your only argument. Hmm.... That all you got?

BTW, Ford has always had noisy power steering pumps. And if you say the new ones leak now, then fine, maybe they do. But, how can you even talk about leaking when Titan's have a very known problem for leaking axles? You can add fluid to one of them in a nice suit, but the other... you have to get on the ground.

rtc1184 · 05-06-2008, 04:51 PM

maybe you dont understand correctly? what makes a truck have the abilities to pull heavier loads? torque and gear ratio? right? ok thought so. well how is it you think your f-150 can tow more than a titan? it has less torque and smaller gears and 1 less gear in the transmission. making sense yet, probably not cause obviously you have yet to be in a titan with a load on it, cause i will stop better than your ford, pull better and will haul more than what your ford will haul. like i posted earlier, you can take your ford and load it with whatever weight and ill add 1000lbs to it and take it up the same grade with the same or less effort, lets put the brakes to test, motors, transmissions, rear ends all to test. mine is a non big tow pack and i will beat your ford in any aspect of performance from, pulling, to just flat out race, to racing with a load. any of them the titan is better. and side air bags dont matter to you? wow guess your wife or kids arent worth anything consider the high roll over rate the f-150's have. hmmm pretty ****tty to me that you dont care about safety of you or your family in the vehicle they ride in.

rtc1184 · 05-06-2008, 04:52 PM

matter of fact put a load on your truck and see how it squats, take a pic confirming the weight of the item/items in the bed so it is legitamate and i will do the same. start there.

TNMan · 05-06-2008, 05:21 PM

Now now, loading the bed of my truck would put your truck to shame. This is the last time... I have an older truck. Yes, any new truck will beat me down the quarter mile. But, I have overloads on the back. My truck DOESN'T squat. Still want to try and beat me? I'll take a before and after with a lawnmower sitting as far back as I can or something, showing that it doesn't even drop an inch. Also, I said 'my' truck has an NP435. Do you know what the first gear ratio is in them? 6.68:1. And my 9inch in the back has a 3.55 ratio.

Safety is important, hence why I said the F-150 beat the Titan in the safety tests. Do YOU not care about your family?

And, again, your truck will not stop faster than a newer F-150. I just showed you real life tests of that.

Like I said, the Titan WILL get to 60mph or 100mph faster, loaded or unloaded, but what does that prove? NOTHING. 18-wheelers take forever to hit 60mph... does that make them less of a truck than a Titan, too?

You DO realize there is more to towing than going WOT from a redlight, right? LMFAO!

rtc1184 · 05-06-2008, 05:32 PM

since you keep repeating yourself that you dont own a new ford then obvioulsy you own an older model ford, that is like comparing apples to oranges retard. if you want to compare your old for to something ill compare it to my weld truck, want to compare those? hell we will even compare towing to my weld truck, what does that prove, i promise you your truck will not out tow or carry a load heavier than my weld truck. 350ho motor puttin 485hp and 596ft lbs of torque on 4.56 rear end with a grandma 4 speed manual transmission. sorry you will lose your pride on that one. also the newer ford does not have a better safety rating. they are the same in the front crash rating and titan is higher on the side impact and also less likier for a rollover.