HEMI vs Titan....

[SouthforkSooner]

This is my first post on this site, so go easy .

My truck is an 07 QC 4x4 Ram with stock 20s, I raced a 2wd crew cab Titan on stock 17s.

The other night I was going up I-35 out of Dallas and I was going 65 in the left lane passing a car and this Titan comes up behind me. As soon as I pass the car, the Titan pins it and passes me on the right (I am still going 65), so since I have never run a Titan I decide to catch up to him. I catch him and we are doing about 70 (I am right behind him in traffic). Once the traffic opens up we both pin it - I am still behind him. We go all the way up to 115 and I am still on his bumper - didn't pass him, was just on his bumper.

I have an Edge Evolution programmer that was on Economy mode - I'm way too cheap to put premium in until the price goes down. The Titan sounded like it had exhaust, though the pipe/tip looked stock.

The Titan ran really well I thought.

My brother raced a 4x4 Titan in his stock Ram 4x4 HEMI and beat it by several lengths to 80 (from 0), he video'd the whole thing. So what would a stock Titan dyno?

Thanks for any replies.

[hemislayer1]

hemi is about 222 at the wheels. The titan dyno is better then that im fore sure

I run Hemi's all the time never had a problem blowing the doors off almost as eazy as a cheby or F1 fiddy

[SpeedFreak]

From the dyno slips I've seen there is often as little as 5hp difference at the rear wheel between the ram and titan.

And this is comparing the 2005 Titans that made a claimed 305hp vs the 345hp Dodge.

I realize the Titan may have a slightly less power robbing trans, but the numbers shouldnt be that close.

I fully suspect that Nissan either underated there HP, or Dodge Lie---ummm told a story about theres.

With the knowledge the next generation of Titan may be built by Dodge Im trying to keep from poking to much fun at them.

[goathead]

ive never dyno'd mine but most that have are getting 260-270 rwhp. i have raced two hemis, both 4wd quad cabs w/ exhaust. beat both by a length or two, one of them i had my topper on, lol.

[SouthforkSooner]

Thanks for the replies.

222 is OBVIOUSLY not even close. 270-275 is about right. The Titan is underrated with power, the powertrain can not be that efficient - it would be 15% loss.

I don't see you "blowing the doors off" of a HEMI when I was on one's bumper from 70-115 and my brother beat one. Every case is going to be different and it is fun to race whatever's out there. But to say that either would blow the doors off of the other unless one is heavily modded would be wrong. I would love to race another Titan, but from a stop instead of from 70.

[silverstar]

this is a stupid thread that is gonna go ugly fast. hemis don't make near the power they claim and are not anywhere near as fast as a titan stock for stock. i have 3-4 truck lengths on my friends 04 qc 4wd hemi ram by 75-80. if that isn't blowing the doors off i don't know what you consider it. i beat a thunderroad edition with an exhaust off a highway roll AND i was pulling a 16' trailer (it was empty but still).
why do you come to a TITAN forum and your first post is about your crap hemi beating a titan???? YOU'RE A TROLL!

[hemislayer1]

Originally Posted by SouthforkSooner

Thanks for the replies.

222 is OBVIOUSLY not even close. 270-275 is about right. The Titan is underrated with power, the powertrain can not be that efficient - it would be 15% loss.

Dyno'd my 06 Hemi Ram w/MDS - Dodge Talk Community Forum

[miketan]

The Hemi averages 242rwhp stock. A '04-'06 Titan averages 265-270rwhp stock. The '07+ with VVT averages 290-ish rwhp stock. Since you have a 4x4 quad cab with heavy a$$ chrome 20's, I don't buy it unless the Titan was a heavy LE CC 4x4 with every option but the kitchen sink in it. Or, you have more mods than you're willing to tell us. Did the Titan have a topper on it? Was it an LE model? Was it a 4X4? Was it a crew cab? How many people were in it? Was it pulling a trailer? All that chit adds up. If the Titan had a crappy exhaust, then you might've been able to keep up. People seem to think just because they have a loud exhaust that it makes more power. Wrong!

You really can't judge how fast your Hemi QC is by just running one truck in freeway traffic. Race a few more Titans and then see how well you do. A QC 4x4 Hemi Ram with 20's is gonna be heaviest gas engine Ram except for the huge Mega Cab Hemi. However, you raced from a roll at freeway speeds so with a good programmer and getting the jump on a sleepy half dazzed Titan driver that can't drive, you might've been able keep up to his back bumper. You never know, you could have factory freak on your hands. They might've accidentally slipped the 6.1L cam in your Hemi at the factory.

As for your brother pulling several truck lengths on a Titan to 80mph with his bone stock 4x4 Hemi QC, I've got news for him. The Titan driver wasn't racing.

I think this post would've been more believable if you didn't add the embellishment at the end about your brother. Keeping up with a Titan from a 60+mph freeway roll sounds a lot more convincing than pulling several truck lengths to 80mph on one from a dig with a competely bone stock QC Hemi 4x4.

[SouthforkSooner]

Originally Posted by miketan

The Hemi averages 242rwhp stock. A '04-'06 Titan averages 265-270rwhp stock. The '07+ with VVT averages 290-ish rwhp stock. Since you have a 4x4 quad cab with heavy a$$ chrome 20's, I don't buy it unless the Titan was a heavy LE CC 4x4 with every option but the kitchen sink in it. Or, you have more mods than you're willing to tell us. Did the Titan have a topper on it? Was it an LE model? Was it a 4X4? Was it a crew cab? How many people were in it? Was it pulling a trailer? All that chit adds up. If the Titan had a crappy exhaust, then you might've been able to keep up. People seem to think just because they have a loud exhaust that it makes more power. Wrong!

You really can't judge how fast your Hemi QC is by just running one truck in freeway traffic. Race a few more Titans and then see how well you do. A QC 4x4 Hemi Ram with 20's is gonna be heaviest gas engine Ram except for the huge Mega Cab Hemi. However, you raced from a roll at freeway speeds so with a good programmer and getting the jump on a sleepy half dazzed Titan driver that can't drive, you might've been able keep up to his back bumper. You never know, you could have factory freak on your hands. They might've accidentally slipped the 6.1L cam in your Hemi at the factory.

As for your brother pulling several truck lengths on a Titan to 80mph with his bone stock 4x4 Hemi QC, I've got news for him. The Titan driver wasn't racing.

I think this post would've been more believable if you didn't add the embellishment at the end about your brother. Keeping up with a Titan from a 60+mph freeway roll sounds a lot more convincing than pulling several truck lengths to 80mph on one from a dig with a competely bone stock QC Hemi 4x4.

I hope they put the 6.1L cam in my truck from the factory!
I dont think the Titan driver was dazed and half asleep, he was the one that started the whole thing and all he has to do is pin it, no shifting involved.
I honestly didnt look to see if it was an LE - I didn't know it made a difference. Is the LE heavier because it has all the bells and whistles?

My brother's race - the Titan driver was racing - they set up the race. If I can get him to send me the video I will post it.

I am not a troll as my original question was about the Titan dyno. I could have come in here and said "I smoked a Titan by 10 lengths, they suck!" But I came in here and told you exactly what happened - I couldn't pass the Titan, I was on his bumper though. He didn't pull on me and I was rather surprised at how fast they are (since I have never run one before). They are obviously extremely efficient through the drivetrain and get a lot of power to the ground.

My brother's truck was an 04 with 20s and the Titan was an 05 I believe with 17s - but only an extended cab.

I guess I should have looked at the Titan before I traded my 02 Ram and bought the 07, but oh well. They are very fast, and Im not sure why they are possibly going with a Dodge engine soon - I havent done any research on it.

[SouthforkSooner]

Originally Posted by silverstar

this is a stupid thread that is gonna go ugly fast. hemis don't make near the power they claim and are not anywhere near as fast as a titan stock for stock. i have 3-4 truck lengths on my friends 04 qc 4wd hemi ram by 75-80. if that isn't blowing the doors off i don't know what you consider it. i beat a thunderroad edition with an exhaust off a highway roll AND i was pulling a 16' trailer (it was empty but still).
why do you come to a TITAN forum and your first post is about your crap hemi beating a titan???? YOU'RE A TROLL!

My crap HEMI? I see in your sig you run a 15.3 in the 1/4 mile - nearly every HEMI I have seen at the track runs at least a 15.0 in the quarter with no mods but exhaust.

So you are pulling a 1500 lb trailer and beat a HEMI yet you still run a 15.3?

[O-FiveCC]

Originally Posted by SouthforkSooner

My crap HEMI? I see in your sig you run a 15.3 in the 1/4 mile - nearly every HEMI I have seen at the track runs at least a 15.0 in the quarter with no mods but exhaust.

So you are pulling a 1500 lb trailer and beat a HEMI yet you still run a 15.3?

well this is my take on this....i have seen quite a few Hemi's run at the track since i go there quit often......the first one was an extended cab hemi with intake, exhaust, headers,SCT tuner and cams run a 14.7, he spun a bit off the line making me think he could run a 14.5 (which is what i run with intake, exhaust, tuner, and Detroit Tru-track LSD)...with his mods i would be high 13's....when i get my headers on i will be maybe a high 13 to low 14's...the other was a Reg Cab Hemi with some exhaust run a 15.6 and a 15.7, now it was very hot and the DA was probably crappy, but that same day i was running 14.92 with just intake and a catback.....i ran a 15.27 with just intake, plus i have a crew cab.....basically what i'm getting at is with my mods i was just as fast or faster as an extended cab hemi that had cams and headers over me....and the reg. cab running 15.6-and 15.7 was bad....my CC did better stock....stock Titans dyno more and i BELIEVE weigh less (not sure on the weight thing), but i havent had one with same mods or a few mods beat me yet, or run better times...not trying to talk crap, i looked at a Hemi before i bought my Titan, just stating what i've seen...the Hemi has to be about 2 mods up on the Titan to hang with it

[hemislayer1]

This is a pointless thread We all know the Titan is faster end of storry.

[BoostDeuce]

lmao junk titan
bad quality, but you can tell titan boy got owned by a stock hemi qc 4x4 20", 3.92. elevation was 7k ft in colorado
http://www.dodgetrucks.org/home/shau...ead%20Stop.MPG

right click, save as.

[SouthforkSooner]

Originally Posted by O-FiveCC

well this is my take on this....i have seen quite a few Hemi's run at the track since i go there quit often......the first one was an extended cab hemi with intake, exhaust, headers,SCT tuner and cams run a 14.7, he spun a bit off the line making me think he could run a 14.5 (which is what i run with intake, exhaust, tuner, and Detroit Tru-track LSD)...with his mods i would be high 13's....when i get my headers on i will be maybe a high 13 to low 14's...the other was a Reg Cab Hemi with some exhaust run a 15.6 and a 15.7, now it was very hot and the DA was probably crappy, but that same day i was running 14.92 with just intake and a catback.....i ran a 15.27 with just intake, plus i have a crew cab.....basically what i'm getting at is with my mods i was just as fast or faster as an extended cab hemi that had cams and headers over me....and the reg. cab running 15.6-and 15.7 was bad....my CC did better stock....stock Titans dyno more and i BELIEVE weigh less (not sure on the weight thing), but i havent had one with same mods or a few mods beat me yet, or run better times...not trying to talk crap, i looked at a Hemi before i bought my Titan, just stating what i've seen...the Hemi has to be about 2 mods up on the Titan to hang with it

Good post man. You've got a fast truck. Is the Detroit rear end aftermarket or is that an option that you can get on Titans? I really wanna run another Titan just to see how it goes - like another poster in this thread said I need to run a few more, one run isn't gonna show anything.

[hemislayer1]

Originally Posted by BoostDeuce

lmao junk titan
bad quality, but you can tell titan boy got owned by a stock hemi qc 4x4 20", 3.92. elevation was 7k ft in colorado
http://www.dodgetrucks.org/home/shau...ead%20Stop.MPG

right click, save as.

LMFAO!!!! Troll Kick rocks