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Re: 2017 Titan Transmission TSB Info

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Turn the radio down and listen while that RPM gauge is bouncing up and down. You should be able to hear it through the exhaust sound. I can hear mine with the radio at a moderate level. Mine fludders enough sometimes that the truck will actually kinda shudder while the RPM's fluctuate.
Huh?? That is not normal lol
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R & D involves driving a few of the cars thousands of miles in all conditions before releasing the product to the consumer.

This part is right. Of course, the problem is that many times, issues like these donít appear in a measurable pattern until there are hundreds or thousands of vehicles driving millions of miles in all conditions.

This isnít a testing fail. This is an issue that didnít appear in testing (for whatever reason). The only companies doing insufficient testing are minor players like Aston Martin and Tesla. I see vehicle testing almost everyday on the roads here in Colorado, where most manufacturers do their high altitude testing. Saw a pack of heavily disguised Peugeots this morning and saw some of the new, again disguised, T1 Silverados yesterday.

I donít recall seeing gas H61 Titans testing, but I did see diesel XDs testing back in early 2015. Rather, I heard them, as they were using A60 Titan beds behind a heavily camouflaged cab.

Bottom line, this isnít an issue of insufficient testing.



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R & D involves driving a few of the cars thousands of miles in all conditions before releasing the product to the consumer.

For example...If Nissan would have done their R & D work on Gen1 Titans they would have found the front and rear axle failures, the manifold problems and few other things that plagued the consumers (guinea pigs) that bought the Titan. Instead "we" the consumer got to be the R & D for Nissan.

****ty *** way to release a product in my mind.
You're assuming every Titan has these issues and should have been caught in the testing process. We don't know what percentage of owners are having these issues. We only get to hear from the ones that do. My '04 didn't have the rear axle issues or the cracked manifolds after 160k miles. This is what a warranty is for.

On a side note, I'd take these minor transmission issues that can be fixed with a software update over other serious issues any day. At least the ignition switch isn't spontaneously combusting and burning down your house, like Ford ran into a few years ago. Should they have caught that in the testing process?

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Huh?? That is not normal lol
My wife has an Armada that we purchased about 3 months before my truck. One day after washing it, I took it for a short drive and it shuddered on me as I was pulling out onto a main road. That is what eventually brought me to clubarmada.com searching for any known similar problems. Eventually I ended up here from people at clubarmada referencing this thread. Yep, definitely not normal , but hopefully will soon be resolved.
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Re: UPDATE!! 2017 Titan Transmission TSB Info

All aboard! The new E update def DOES feel different, in a good way. Kinda surprised. Going up a hill after a red light , which before was awful as it dropped all the way to first gear and supplied zero power, was nice after the update. Dropped one gear and gave me the power I needed. Also the shifting almost reminds me of my old CVT now from my maxima. I donít even feel 3rd or 4th or 5th. So far so good.
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question from a new titan '17 owner, had it about a week. i think i got the new TSB for the transmission on the second day i had it while i was at the dealer to get my tires balanced (wasnt done before apparently). i havent really noticed any transmission issues. i do see the rpm needle bounce around a little while upshifting, but i think thats just the needle bouncing around and not the tranmission as i cant feel/hear a difference in the rpms.

so my questions are: realistically how many of the new titans have the transmission issue, and how many once they have the computer updated actually have an issue? are we talking 1%, 5%, 20%, etc? its hard to tell on forums because people without an issue dont feel the need to join a forum, but a VERY high percentage of people having issues will, which always skews perception on issues.

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Turn the radio down and listen while that RPM gauge is bouncing up and down. You should be able to hear it through the exhaust sound. I can hear mine with the radio at a moderate level. Mine fludders enough sometimes that the truck will actually kinda shudder while the RPM's fluctuate.
Mine is EXACTLY the same. Radio off and I hear it in the exhaust note while fluttering. Especially on acceleration. During steady state highwqy flutter i dont hear it as much but if I pay enough attention I do.
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Re: 2017 Titan Transmission TSB Info

Here is a video of the fluttering on the highway I had taken. I need to try to take another acceleration flutter video as that one didn't come out that well....it can bounce a lot more on acceleration.
https://youtu.be/NP-g8fnkcTY

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Here is a video of the fluttering on the highway I had taken. I need to try to take another acceleration flutter video as that one didn't come out that well....it can bounce a lot more on acceleration.
http://youtu.be/fcdT0hy5TvU
Yea, that's a little strange. I had the transmission issues before the TSB fix and I only had fluttering when accelerating, not driving at a constant speed.

Then again, the TSB does list "While driving at a steady speed, the engine RPM goes up and down (fluctuates) a small amount" as a symptom.
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Here is a video of the fluttering on the highway I had taken. I need to try to take another acceleration flutter video as that one didn't come out that well....it can bounce a lot more on acceleration.
http://youtu.be/fcdT0hy5TvU
Correct me if I am wrong. Looking again at the video were you in 4 wheel drive?
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Here is a video of the fluttering on the highway I had taken. I need to try to take another acceleration flutter video as that one didn't come out that well....it can bounce a lot more on acceleration.
http://youtu.be/fcdT0hy5TvU
Correct me if I am wrong. Looking again at the video were you in 4 wheel drive?
2wd. I've actually never put it into 4wd yet ha. Soon now that the snow has come.

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I can see why you ask that. The indicator on my frontier is much different. Looks like our says 4H or 4LO next to it when activated

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2wd. I've actually never put it into 4wd yet ha. Soon now that the snow has come.

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I can see why you ask that. The indicator on my frontier is much different. Looks like our says 4H or 4LO next to it when activated
Just make sure when you go into 4H dont go past 60 mph lol. Was told to keep it under that speed which stands to reason. Where I live we have tons of snow right now and hardly any streets plowed which has been great because I have been able to put my Titan to the test and I am totally impressed how she handles in this deep snow and feel safe!
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Just make sure when you go into 4H dont go past 60 mph lol. Was told to keep it under that speed which stands to reason. Where I live we have tons of snow right now and hardly any streets plowed which has been great because I have been able to put my Titan to the test and I am totally impressed how she handles in this deep snow and feel safe!
Who told you that? Where did they get thay info from? I haven't been able to find that info in the manual. It was, listed for my other trucks. Safe speeds for switching but no max speed, except for 4 Lo.

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Who told you that? Where did they get thay info from? I haven't been able to find that info in the manual. It was, listed for my other trucks. Safe speeds for switching but no max speed, except for 4 Lo.

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Before placing the 4WD shift switch in
the 4H position from 2WD, ensure the
vehicle speed is less than 62 mph
(100 km/h). Failure to do so can damage
the 4WD system.
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Before placing the 4WD shift switch in

the 4H position from 2WD, ensure the

vehicle speed is less than 62 mph

(100 km/h). Failure to do so can damage

the 4WD system.

Thatís the max speed you can switch from 2WD to 4WD. Says nothing about max speed in 4WD.




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Just make sure when you go into 4H dont go past 60 mph lol. Was told to keep it under that speed which stands to reason. Where I live we have tons of snow right now and hardly any streets plowed which has been great because I have been able to put my Titan to the test and I am totally impressed how she handles in this deep snow and feel safe!
I remember the first time I drove a 4WD in fairly deep snow. It was awesome. I could take off like a rabbit. Problem is that all cars have 4WD brakes and I couldn't stop any faster than
most everyone else out on the road.
Just a friendly reminder to not let the ability to GO override your ability to STOP!
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