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I just sold my 04 xe king cab with 160,000 miles for $11,000 so I'm pretty sure you can get 16 for uours


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Question. Will the OEM 4x4 springs fit on a 2wd '08? Just wondering cause I will take those off your hands if you still have them available. They are way more brand new for a set.
 
I know the 08+ 4x4 springs are 1.5" taller then the 2wd springs. Just wondering if the 04 4x4 springs are the same.
 
04-07 4x2 coils are 13.2"
04-07 4x4 coils are 14"
08+ 4x4 (non-pro4x) coils are 15"
 
Price lowered to 13,000 OBO, need this puppy gone before I start my 90 mile daily commute on the 22nd. Cant afford to pay the gas for 500 highway miles a week!
I have a question: instead of dropping the price so much, why not just hold out for what you want and get a couple thousand dollar beater to run up and down the highway? The beater would be depreciated out, so you could probably get back whatever you put into it after your internship is done, and then you'd still have your truck that you put all that work and money into.

I run those kind of miles and that's what I do. Some weeks I drive the T every day, when I feel like it, other times I split duty with the beater. The beater saves me some gas money, and it's worth what I paid for it even after 40k miles because I paid almost nothing for it.

Might be something worth thinking about, instead of getting into a new vehicle and having payments all over again.
 
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I have a question: instead of dropping the price so much, why not just hold out for what you want and get a couple thousand dollar beater to run up and down the highway? The beater would be depreciated out, so you could probably get back whatever you put into it after your internship is done, and then you'd still have your truck that you put all that work and money into.

I run those kind of miles and that's what I do. Some weeks I drive the T every day, when I feel like it, other times I split duty with the beater. The beater saves me some gas money, and it's worth what I paid for it even after 40k miles because I paid almost nothing for it.

Might be something worth thinking about, instead of getting into a new vehicle and having payments all over again.
I have considered that somewhat but my issue is I'm a college student with very little extra money, so finding the money to buy another car/tag/title might be difficult, but it is something I might give more thought. As far as reliable, great mpg cars go, what is there available for that little money?
 
I have considered that somewhat but my issue is I'm a college student with very little extra money, so finding the money to buy another car/tag/title might be difficult, but it is something I might give more thought. As far as reliable, great mpg cars go, what is there available for that little money?
Well, it depends on what you like to drive, how old you mind going, how much you can afford to spend on gas. I have another little pickup, early 90's 4 cylinder 2wd, that gets about 25mpg on the highway. I gave a little over a thousand for it about 3 years ago. So that doesn't sound like much gas improvement, but:

500 miles in Titan @ 15mpg = 33.3 gallons/wk * 3.75/gal = $125
500 miles in Other @ 25mpg = 20 gallons/wk *3.75/gal = $75

So there's a $50 savings per week. Now it depends on how many weeks you're driving like that. 20 weeks saves you $1000. If you did like I did, bought a $1500 beater, drove it for 20 weeks, saved $1000 in gas, then turned around and sold it for $1200, let's say, after sales tax and all you've saved about $700 bucks. And you still have your Titan.

Switching vehicles to save on gas only makes sense long-term. In the short term you almost always lose more than you gain.

Say you only drive 10k miles per year normally.

Titan: 10,000/15 = 666.7 gallons * 3.75 = $2500 gas
Other: 10,000/35 =285.7 gallons * 3.75 = $1071 gas

So if you were to buy a 35mpg car, you'd save about $1400 per year in gas. Now if you're buying a beater, then you can make out. But if you're buying one new, and have to make payments, uh oh:

$200 car payment * 12 months = $2400 - $1400 savings = $1000 additional cost.

So if you get a 5 year note on a small car, you don't start making money until about year 10, because for 5 years you will pile up $5000 in deficit - additional money you spent vs. having the Titan. Then in year 6 you start going the other way:

$1400 savings * 4 years = $5600

In other words, you don't break even selling the Titan and buying a small car with a payment until 9 years down the road. Maybe slightly less as gas goes up. The numbers are different, of course, if you own the Titan outright. In that case, you're still losing money, but maybe not as much.

Except in extreme cases where operation & maintenance outstrips the cost of purchase - say people who drive 30k + miles per year - most people would do better financially to stick with what they've already spent money on.

As for beater cars, it depends again on what you want and how handy you are. Old 2WD foreign trucks are simple to work on, crazy reliable and get decent MPG. Not like a Honda Civic, but they're several thousand cheaper. Anything that's 10mpg or better than the Titan will be significant driving 500 miles every week. Just remember you've got to sit in the thing for 10 hours a week, too.
 
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