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Hey guys have a '05 Titan kingcab 4x4.
I currently have Courser A/T2 (Mastercraft Tires - Courser A/T 2 -)
I got these tires put on last year at the beginning of this month. Last time I looked I had a little over 22,XXX miles on these tires and they are to the point I will need a new set come inspection time (or before) 8/1/12 is my inspection.

This is my first single rear wheel 4x4 pick up and I was just tickled that I got more than 10,000MI out a set of tires.. my BMW540 eats through them like cheese.

Anyways I was 100% satisfied w/ these tires, I chose them because I knew two friends who were running them and I notcied them on a lot heavier trucks that came into our tranny shop, mostly dodge 3/4 and 1tons.. I live in south western PA and these tires did well in the snow, mud and wet traction. I do a lot of off road driving on hard dirt packed roads and sometimes coal. I paid $184/tire last year. I checked w/ my tire guy last week and he said they are $194 now.. I asked him if 20,000-30,000 was about right for the type of driving I told him I did and for the set of tires I had and he said that was about what those tires get (20,000-30,000).

My question is; I've been doing some research seeing if there is a better tire that is longer lasting and not TOO much of a price increase. My tire guy said the next step lower is @ $160 roughly which were Hankooks he priced me, and then he said the next step up was the $230-245 price range..
The tires I've done research on was the Cooper tires, BFG tires, and duratracs, and from some of the threads that was reporting of some of those tires getting 40,000+ miles out of them.

Does anybody know of a tire thats roughly $220-250, and what series of BGF, cooper, and duratracs are you guys running?

Thanks
-Jared
 
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Doing some searching on the internet.. here are some tires I've been looking at.. they are also showing the prices @ the $220-235 mark.

1.) Nitto Tires NTGAT TERRA GRAPPLER LT275/70R18 125S
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2.) Toyo Tires OPEN COUNTRY A/T LT275/70R18
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3.) Cooper Tires DISCOVERER ATR LT275/70R18
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4.) Falken Tires S/TZ 04 LT275/70R18
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Now I know from doing some reading on this subforum that there are some members running Coopers, and Falkens. I am not sure if these are the same series of the tire or not that I see on other posts. But has anybody ran any of these tires posted above and have any feedback or reports? They all look like decent tires.

Thanks again for your time
-Jared
 
I have the Nitto Terra Graps in that size and I think that they are awesome tires, they are really good in rain down here and are very quiet and should get a lot of miles out of them.
 
if your going stock size i love my tires. i have the bridgestone dueler h/l alenzas and they grip awesome everywhere. $800 for all four tires BUT they have a 40,000 mile warranty!!!!!!!!!
 
i had an 05 wrangler sport with a 6 inch lift and hankook dynapro M/T's, 35 by 12.50 r15 tires and they lasted 20k but they were mud tires that i daily drove on and they were only 100 a peice
 
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why are you running LT tires? also what size are your running?
275/65.... what do you mean why am I running LT tires?
Never was a big tire guy... so all info is appreciated my ears are wide open.

Also I just been doing research on all of the manufactures websites and I ran across Mastercrafts warranty which is 50,000mi for my tires.
Sort of wish I knew it came w/ that so I could of kept a record of all the rotations and miles... I would be getting a really nice prorated price on tires.

Have any of you guys used the warranty on tires, who rebates you the dealer or manufacture?

From what I read it looks like you need to keep track of your miles and rotations in order to obtain the tread wear warranty. Mastercraft and Cooper are the two warrantys I read over and they both have forms you can print out in order to mark and keep track of mileage and rotations for that purpose.
Thanks for the replys so far!
 
Strictly a tire that can get over 40-60k miles would be BFG A/T's. The problem I had with those tires is wet traction became poor with 40% tread. It has been a while but I think I got 70k out of them on a Jeep wrangler and maybe 30k ish with the T but got rid of them because they got slick in the rain. I run Cooper S/T maxx which IMO is a much better tire but I can't speak for tread life yet. I only put about 7k a year on my T so I might never find out.
 
Well, if you're sticking with the stock size of 275/65/18, you should have just about any choice of tire for under $235 each.

If you're happy with under 30K of tread life, I would recommend the Bridgesatone Dueler AT REVO's. By far the best AT I've owned. Their problem is 30K is about the life of them. If you want longer tire life and an equivalent to the BFG AT's at a lower price, check out the General Grabber AT2's. I had these on my truck and got over 60 K out of them. But like another member stated, the Grabbers and the BFG AT's both suffer from pretty poor traction in rain and light "dusting" snows when tread starts to wear.

I would also recommend the Firestone Destination AT's and of course the Michelin LTX AT2's. If you're driving a lot on coal, the best way to get life out of your tires is to get a tire with the highest treadwear rating. pretty much means it's a harder tire.

Keep in mind you can also look at 265/70/18's for tire size since it's pretty much equivalent.

other have had good success with I think the Hankook ATM RF??? I think they're Hankook, but maybe they are Kumho's...
 
I have Nitto Dura Grapplers and I love them. I have 305/70/18s but they come in 275/65/18 and 275/65/18. They are 206 a piece at Discount Tire and if you do some searching and find a lower price on any tire Discount tire will beat it. Also 60000 mile warranty.
 
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Well, if you're sticking with the stock size of 275/65/18, you should have just about any choice of tire for under $235 each.

If you're happy with under 30K of tread life, I would recommend the Bridgesatone Dueler AT REVO's. By far the best AT I've owned. Their problem is 30K is about the life of them. If you want longer tire life and an equivalent to the BFG AT's at a lower price, check out the General Grabber AT2's. I had these on my truck and got over 60 K out of them. But like another member stated, the Grabbers and the BFG AT's both suffer from pretty poor traction in rain and light "dusting" snows when tread starts to wear.

I would also recommend the Firestone Destination AT's and of course the Michelin LTX AT2's. If you're driving a lot on coal, the best way to get life out of your tires is to get a tire with the highest treadwear rating. pretty much means it's a harder tire.

Keep in mind you can also look at 265/70/18's for tire size since it's pretty much equivalent.

other have had good success with I think the Hankook ATM RF??? I think they're Hankook, but maybe they are Kumho's...
Thank you for your explanation on the treadwear rating. I never was a big tire buff.. I mean I know the basics but that helps me out.
I'm a big ATV guy and I know from running fourwheelers all these years I seen what the coal and roads do to tires with softer lugs compared to a tire with harder lugs.

Has anyone redeemed the 'Tread wear warranty'? My biggest question is who honors the warranty? Does the dealer, or do you have to mail in to manufacture and get your prorated price/rebate?

Thanks everybody for the advice so far.. probably going this week to be getting a new set of treads.. going to price some of the other brands through my tire shop and go from there.
Can't really afford to buy tires off the internet or I would. I'm not sure about everybody else but nearly every tire shop around our town will charge $25/wheel to mount & balance NEW tires if they weren't purchased there..
 
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Also I do a lot more of driving on hard dirt packed/shale roads opposed to the driving on coal beds. I would like to find a tire that will last 30-40,000MI but not if at 40% tread they start getting slick on wet/snow dusted road ways.
I am thinking I will probably end up w/ another set of the Mastercraft Courser A/T2 tires as I was pleased w/ the performance all around, wet, mud, snow, ice. This is dependent on the the prices of the tires I will price locally through the tire shop I use.
I am thinking it is between BFG, Cooper, Toyo and Nittos.. Whatever tire I do end up w/ I will def be keeping track of the miles and the tire rotations in order to obtain the pro-rated prices next tire change. I am hoping redeeming the pro-rated price is not a big hassle... which hopefully someone who has dealt w/ this will chime in. But if keeping track of my miles and rotations is basically all I need to do to have my next set of treads cost $40-60/tire cheaper then you can bet I will be taking advantage of that.

Thanks everyone for the information.. keep it coming in. Probably wont make a purchase til mid or late in the week.

Again looking for a good wearing all season that does well daily driving, wet, mud, snow and ice conditions.

-Jared
 
Discussion starter · #14 ·
Well went Friday and was going to get a set of the Courser A/T2s again and ended up seeing a flyer for a new tire released from MasterCraft called AXTs.

They were 3 dollars more than the A/T2s and I really liked the tread design.
So far I really like the tires!

Thanks everyone for replys, I'll post with updates on trade wear!
 

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