Seems like I have a truck with a mind of it's own. Not a huge deal but getting frustrating! My ethanol % will swing from 5% all the way to 50%. I'm running shell 93 gas. I always run good stuff to try and keep the % down. As you FFV guys know, the eth % determines AFR's. If I'm on 5% my afr's are perfect. If I'm on 50% my afr's are pig rich at mid 11's or slightly lower. Anyone know where the DAM# ethanol % is being read from? Front o2's? gas tank? Getting frustrated not being able to stabilize it! Anyone else having issues like this?
Ethanol % Where the F is it read from?
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More digging needs to be done.
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why is this country wasting its food supply in its gas tanks, corn is used in 75% of all food we consume, oil is non renewable resource its going to expire one day, our goverment needs to figure it out now, ethanol is only a band aid. 1 in ten rows of corn goes to ethanol.:soap::soap::soap::soap:
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Kids r watching a movie, digging now
Because my truck hauls *** on E85!! In the past the government has paid farmers to leave empty fields. Atleast growing corn for ethanol helps them out by keeping the price per bushel higher.
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so sad life is hard and even harder if ur stupid:redblob"
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and vehicles get worse gas mileage with ethanol in the fuel. Its not even a bandaid, its a way to make people think there is a solution when there isnt.
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We need an LNG conversion tank setup for our Titans.... Nightowl may chime in on this. There are NG shelves all under Louisiana and other areas. Granted the tanks are over 300lbs... however if you get the carbon fibre tanks, that weight is drastically reduced. Chevys new silverado is being offered with an LNG option.
I do wish we could get E85 in my area... I would love to have that stuff on a daily basis. I saw this old Merc 300E diesel that smelled like french fries going by the other day... gottla love it!
I do wish we could get E85 in my area... I would love to have that stuff on a daily basis. I saw this old Merc 300E diesel that smelled like french fries going by the other day... gottla love it!
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BTW what kind of gas prices are you guys paying for 93 oct in your area?
The way I look at it, 104 octane gasoline is $7.00-8.00 a gallon, I can get E85 for 2.98-3.15 gallon all day long. There is roughly 40% less energy in a gallon of E85, but that does not mean that it necessarily takes 40% more fuel to do the same work. You can purpose build an engine with much higher compression ration (and efficiency) running on 104 octane. 12-14:1 compression would not be an issue with E85. My Ram got about 15 mpg on gasoline running it hard around town and about 12.5-13 mpg on E85. Engine ran much smoother with quicker throttle response on E85.
Furthermore until they make gasoline with the same latent heat of vaporization as Ethanol blended fuel, I will gladly run the alcohol based fuel, because the intake and combustion chambers run much cooler.
Attached is a dyno sheet of my Hemi Ram that started life as a FlexFuel 4.7. The flex fuel programming was left intact in the ECM and all that I did was fill the tank with E85. The timing jumped from 26.5* to 29*, the air/fuel ratio did its thing, and as you see the HP and TQ jumped over 1.8%. The ECM had no tuning changes from gasoline, but likely would have responded even better to some specialized tuning. This was also on a 9.6:1 compression engine with a longer than stock duration camshaft.
If I were to swap the heads and raise the compression to say 11.8:1 using 09+ Eagle heads, I would have been well over 400 RWHP and the difference between gasoline and E85 would have even been larger.
All you E85 haters should have ridden in my TPI 383 powered G-van. It made 430 ft/lbs to the tires on a 9:1 383 with E85 fueling it. In the middle of summer the aluminum TPI runners and intake manifold would remain cool to the touch. Heat soak was never an issue, especially during WOT runs.
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Im paying $3.90 gall for 93 right now.
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Got a new Rom last night from Ben, adjusted my fuel comp.table. Drove today with ethanol between 0 & 8.5% all day! So happy!
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DS check it again in 75-100 miles.
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Sure will, at 40 miles & its on 0%
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I can't even mess with any of that on my Cipher, is that a Tuner version only feature... I mean I can't do cylinder power test, Tune car, ignition timing, etc... Not that its all important, since Ben tunes my T and he can read over all that... just curious if I would need an updated key code to get those, or if those are strictly for the tuner package?
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You should have most of those. If your an FFV you should have the ethanol option.
PS: Damn ethanol went to 63% tonight!! Getting so pissed at my truck!! Going to the track saturday, last thing I need is pig rich AFRS. I'll just manually set ethanol to 0% I guess.
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I'm gonna go check out this Ethanol feature on Cipher, I'm gonna be pissed if its not available for me to look at lol... Maybe I will have to get an update or something if so.
What did Ben say about your Ethanol setting being wacky?
What did Ben say about your Ethanol setting being wacky?
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